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Author Topic: "Don't Count Me Out" - my mix "sounds like a demo" - help!!!  (Read 1708 times)

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September 21, 2013, 01:14:28 AM
Hi, I'm trying to get my songs "licensed" for TV, films and advertisements. However, the initial feedback I've gotten is that my songs sound like demos, not final recordings.

This song, "Don't Count Me Out" is extremely simply - Vocals, drums, bass, guitar.

I would love to hear how you would mix it, because I'm at a dead end! Much appreciated.

https://soundcloud.com/kirbyallen/dont-count-me-out

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Don%27t%20Count%20Me%20Out%20-%20FLAC%20Stems.zip?w=AACSQ1VnWHxMotniNSRu4bVT_KCMbPYfQ9xCgHVLya_GYA&dl=1
Kirby Allen - Samurai Songwriter
https://soundcloud.com/kirbyallen

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September 21, 2013, 08:17:37 PM
https://soundcloud.com/vvv-4/dont-count-me-out-vvv_mix


Listening here, I think I have too much level variation between the verse and breakdown, and the chorus; it's a pretty quick mix, just intended to give some idears.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2013, 08:22:08 PM by vvv »

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September 22, 2013, 05:17:03 AM
Thanks vvv!!!! I got some great ideas from your mix - I really liked how you stereo-ized the vocals. Also, I was going to discard the low harmony but you showed me how it can sound pretty good.

In case anyone has downloaded the stem previously, you might want the "cleaned up" stems I have recently loaded into the drop box link (below.)

One person (from another forum) said my mix... "sounds like a live band, recorded on a cell phone."  Hmm, I think I liked it better when it sounded like a demo!

I am now remixing the song from scratch, so I thought it would be interesting to make a mix available at each stage, to compare the versions as it progresses. The first mix(NO FX) has no processing, not even EQ. It can be heard in a dropbox link (below.)

As usual, any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.

https://soundcloud.com/kirbyallen/dont-count-me-out

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvc7k9j9uq9yyuz/DON%27T%20COUNT%20ME%20OUT%20-%20NO%20FX.mp3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o04v9pq6yl7dey7/Don%27t%20Count%20Me%20Out%20-%20FLAC%20Stems.zip
Kirby Allen - Samurai Songwriter
https://soundcloud.com/kirbyallen

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October 13, 2013, 04:08:59 PM
I would say, quickly. drums need a little less reverb, and more dynamics.
all the rest sounds ok to me.

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October 21, 2013, 05:12:05 PM
Getting the stems now. My first thought is that stylistically the mix should sound "raw" and yet clear and professional (a la The Knack).

BTW, I think you only need to save FLAC files if you're uploading to this site.

1 more tip: if a stem isn't stereo, you can save it as a mono file. That will reduce the size of the download.

EDIT: I may not get the mix I was hoping, as the drum tracks have already been processed. I'm going to try adding some virtual snare and maybe kick.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2013, 10:59:28 PM by Duendito »
GEAR: 2010 iMac, Roland Quad Capture, Logic Pro 9, Yamaha HS80M speakers, etc.

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October 23, 2013, 01:05:31 AM
Ok, here's my first run at it. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2419037/Music/Don%27t-Count-Me-Out-DuenditoMix01.mp3

NOTES:

- First thing I did was build a new drum set on top of the existing drum track, to make the overall drum sound bigger. Added hi-hats playing whenever there wasn't a crash cymbal or toms, and copied the drum fills as best I heard them.

- Next I ran the bass through a virtual DI and a little Overdrive. Oh yeah baby... :)

- I recorded a third guitar part to add emphasis to certain areas.

- I also added a little keyboard part that's kind of a screwed up pipe organ, it's quite in the background in two places and is droning an A note. Kinda funky I thought. Just a little extra element of color.

- There was no way I could think of to counter the extreme compression of the cymbals, so I EQ'd out some of their highs and automated faders to quiet down the louder sections.

- I parallel compressed the bass and drums, and ran two small room verbs for vocals and some of the instruments.

That's about it!
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013, 01:09:22 AM by Duendito »
GEAR: 2010 iMac, Roland Quad Capture, Logic Pro 9, Yamaha HS80M speakers, etc.

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November 17, 2013, 07:47:52 PM
i love Duendito's mix. It definitely gives the song a great amount of polish. I believe the inital mix was just TOO simple. Not much in the way of production. The song is fine and quite enjoyable, but the added touches definitely is the way to go... So maybe it wasn't really as finished as you may have first thought.