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Author Topic: Mixoff Contest with Barry Wood - Win Barry's New Book!  (Read 85729 times)

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July 05, 2011, 07:31:11 PM

Barry Wood, author of the new book "Waves Plug-Ins Workshop: Mixing by the Bundle" has graciously agreed to serve as judge on a mixoff!

And the great band 'All Hands Lost' from Detroit has agreed to provide a track to mix! You can read about them here:

The rules for this contest will be the same as for the previous mixoff contest, you can submit a first mix, which Barry will critique, until July 19th. After that, you'll have another week or so to submit a revised mix, taking any of Barry or the bands' (or anyone who cares to comment!) input. You can do whatever you need to get the best mix, no references from the band, but it wouldn't hurt to choose one or two yourself!

UPDATE: Submission deadline for revised mixes is July 28th!

Barry will select a winner by the end of July, who will receive a copy of Barry's book: Waves Plug-Ins Workshop: Mixing by the Bundle!

The raw FLAC files can be found here:

And here's a quick mix I did, so you can hear the track. It's a pretty basic mix, no automation, just basic eq, compression, a little reverb and one delay for the vocals (ok, a little detune on those, too!):

Good luck, have fun!

« Last Edit: May 02, 2014, 06:47:41 PM by JohnSuitcase »

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July 05, 2011, 11:48:10 PM
Vocals sound like Tool.  Should be a blast to mix.  Will volume be a factor in the judging?

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July 06, 2011, 12:24:01 AM
Vocals sound like Tool.  Should be a blast to mix.  Will volume be a factor in the judging?

While this isn't a mastering competition, so volume shouldn't be a consideration, a mix which is easy to master to be competitive will probably be a better mix, in the end. So, don't apply mastering to your submission, unless you're very happy with your mastered result! In that case, note that you did some mastering.

It's becoming a grey area in mixing. Many of us apply compression to the two buss while mixing, and possibly an eq, and a limiter. It's pretty much mastering, in the end, I suppose, though if you screw it up, it ties the hands of a mastering engineer to correct your errors.

My rule of thumb is to mix through a pseudo mastering buss, then remove that processing when exporting for mastering. But for references, I leave that stuff on.

I think if you make a note that you did or didn't do any two buss processing, Barry should be able to judge fairly!

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July 06, 2011, 12:51:37 AM
First off, I'd like to thank John for inviting me to judge the mixoff contest, this should be fun.

To expand on John's response about loudness, you are free to use whatever 2-bus processing that you might like to mix with but please don't end up with something that's so devoid of headroom and dynamics that it would cause the mastering engineer to send you a nasty note.

I've downloaded the tracks myself and done some poking around. The basic drum/bass/guitar/vocal instrumentation doesn't leave you with anything to hide behind, all the elements will need to really stand up on their own in the mix. This ought to be interesting :)

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July 06, 2011, 09:03:33 AM
This should be good! ;D
Looking forward to it. And Barry Thanks for taking the time to do this!, and help us out in our mixing endeavors. 8)
See you all in the mixoff  :D

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July 06, 2011, 09:30:50 PM

Decent tune...should be fun to mix.

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July 07, 2011, 12:03:58 PM
So. I guess the actual mixoffs come here?

Very skillful singer indeed! With such talent there's a small possibility that this band could end up somewhere :)
There's nothing extra added to here apart from one little string thing for the choruses. That was little weird situation for me; usually on a mixdown
I'm muting and removing all the excessive stuff, not the other way around.

This has been mastered. But on to a quite low level. The Wavs dynamic range is "11" (TT DR offline meter), something they would have done in the early to
mid nineties. 
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July 09, 2011, 06:22:20 AM
downloading now - what key is the song (or various parts) in?
Republic of Western Australia

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July 09, 2011, 02:50:54 PM
Two questions before I dive into this wonderful tune:

* Was it recorded to a click and if so: What's the tempo?
* Any chance I could have a glance at the lyrics?
I'm cleaning up my server, but you can find some of the mixes I did on this forum here:

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July 09, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
To me it sounds like the gtrs where recorded to a click... and not present when the drums were recorded... theres like 2 different feels to the tracks, Kinda odd.
But we┬┤ll see how this fairs when I get to it later next week.

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