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Title: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on October 31, 2012, 07:49:39 AM
hello to everyone
I am a music teacher in a college in North of France and with my colleague, who's french teacher, we wrote a comedy musical will be performed by students in June.

Almost all songs (14 !) are recorded and it only remains mixer.

This is where the problem. We need help!

Could someone spinning us a helping hand?

Unfortunately we do not have budget and ourselves, we spent hundreds of hours volunteering ...

I specify that we work in lens, an old mining town, in a very disadvantaged socially and culturally  collegeand it's a very nice project for children who have nothing.

If someone is interested to share a beautiful musical experience and human, it would be just great!

All songs were recorded with cubase 6.5 and a maudiofast track ultra and sometimes ufx too.

Very often instruments used are vst instruments but some real  like a clarinet, tuba, trumpet, accordion, electric guitar, bass, and soon an oboe and a string quartet, played by different colleagues.

Voices will be sing live and there is no voice except sometimes to mix some background vocals that will be on the soundtrack.

Styles range from  soft pop rock to almost heavy going bossa nova or disco and even electro!

So, if anyone is interested, well that would be great!

Soon I hope

Pierre
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: HLD on October 31, 2012, 09:09:11 AM
So this is supposed to be singback tracks to be used on a pa? In that case it needs special attention, since pa system have great big subs...

Maybe I could help you with some of it, but I really dubt I have the time to do all 14. It will be a coupple of weeks before I can get started. I´m a protools user, so virtual instruments needs to be bounced, and I need the tracks to start from bar 1. Scratch vocal tracks for reference while mixing would be good.

I´m not so far from you this week, attending a festival in Saint-Lô, Polyfollia. Doing live sound for one of the artists that are invited.

Feel free to send me a pm if interested.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on October 31, 2012, 09:15:55 AM
Thank you for your reply !

sorry but what a pa ?

the sountracks will be played on a ARCS system sound from L acoustic, I suppose you know it, it's a great soundsystem !

For the bounce of the vst, no soucy, I will be send you the waves files with separate drum tracks, in 24 bits and 44.1 or 48 Khz, as you prefer !

I can post a link where I've uploaded the file on a server.

For the 14 songs, maybe other persons could help us...

Thank you so much anyway

Pierre
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on October 31, 2012, 11:26:26 AM
Could I suggest you put up an mp3 so people have clue what they are getting into!.

Cheers
Morten
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on October 31, 2012, 11:53:04 AM
you're right,

I'm uploading the two first songs, the first one is a soft pop rock song and the second one is more heavy...

I put the link when it's finished

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on October 31, 2012, 12:12:18 PM
You can listen here on my soundcloud account

http://soundcloud.com/pierretitz

I'm waiting for your comments !
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Laguna on October 31, 2012, 01:35:54 PM
Hi, great Songs, I like them.

When do you neet the Songs? While being really busy right now, I would be looking forward to mix the Songs during the christmas holidays.

Best wishes,
Laguna
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: maaaquemeseyo on October 31, 2012, 02:13:54 PM
Nice songs!. Will you upload the original project too? For the Cubase users.  ;)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on October 31, 2012, 02:57:23 PM
I wouldnt mind giving a song or 2 ago!.
So hit us up with some files! :)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on October 31, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
thank you to everyone !

ok, I'll put other songs just now

Is someone interested to work on it now ?
Title: Re: Re: Re: help us !!!
Post by: crtjstr on October 31, 2012, 10:21:18 PM

Is someone interested to work on it now ?

I think lots of people are. It's more a question of who would do the whole project. :-)

If I were in your position, I would out up all the tracks, then choose a winner. Do it as a contest, with a prize of mix credit or whatever you can come up with.
Title: Re: Re: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 01, 2012, 07:10:27 AM

Is someone interested to work on it now ?

I think lots of people are. It's more a question of who would do the whole project. :-)

If I were in your position, I would out up all the tracks, then choose a winner. Do it as a contest, with a prize of mix credit or whatever you can come up with.
I could also participate and mix few songs.
Upload the tracks and choose the mixes you like most.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 01, 2012, 07:31:12 AM
ok,

so, for the heavy rock song, you can download all tracks here

http://dl.free.fr/dfAhcYU0Z

for information, all exported in 24 bits, 44.1 KHz.

All tracks are on 1 and the tempo is 150.

I think there's a big work for drums, you have to "grow up" the snare ! compressor ? eq ? reverb ? delay ?

I put another one, you can listen other songs on my soundcloud account  

One who chooses to mix it can ask me all questions (s)he want !

I forgot, for each song you mix, I wish I have two versions, one with the main voice (if ther's one of course !) and one instrumental with just the background vocals.. Thank you so much
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 01, 2012, 07:51:02 AM
I put many other songs on soundcloud, I'm interested to have your opinion and to know which you prefer !

I put the link of another song project too, which is on soundcloud. It is called "l'amitié". It's not my favorite but it's interesting musically. 2 different musical universes.

The beginning of the song is disco and the second part, rock.

Why ? In fact, it's a duet between the two main characters, a girl and a boy, teenagers, who are "slightly" different. She's good student while he prefers tag walls... But the power of love...

That's why there two universe and there's many tracks ! I hope someone will be able to do something good with !

http://dl.free.fr/p5RCwhZfq



Good luck ! I'm still here if you need...

PS : sorry, I forgot to tell you,  this project was exported in 24 bits and 48 KHz !  the tempo is 138
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 01, 2012, 02:43:44 PM
no opinion ?
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Laguna on November 01, 2012, 09:30:42 PM
I downloaded the files and created a project. Really cool stuff! I will post my mix when finished :)

Best,
Laguna
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 01, 2012, 10:53:56 PM
Ok thank you so much !!! Which song ?
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 02, 2012, 10:08:04 AM
please Laguna, could you tell me where do you from ?
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 02, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
This is the first track you uploaded. "Charlot".
I had difficulties with the finish of the track. Didn't know how it should go so now there is a fade out after guitar solo ends.


Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 02, 2012, 12:01:00 PM
GREAT !! GREAT !! GREAT !! I LOVE IT !!!

You have succeeded to boost the chorus, it's great !

I love the kick but I just have a small pb with the snare, I find it too dry,too short..  You can't boost it too ? I don't know how (reverb, delay, another compressor or eq adjusment ?). I find it seems to be a TR707.

So, I have to say I juste have listened it with headphone, my wife is sleepling :-), I will listen it on my NS80 monitors when she'll wake up !

the voice's handling, mainly with the backgrounds is top !

For the finish, I forgot to tell you.. You're right, I thought to a fade out, since 3'35, per example

thanks thanks thanks
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 02, 2012, 02:31:34 PM
I'm glad you liked it.
I edited it a little bit. Snare is a little bigger and up front and there is now a fade out starting at 3:35
Same link:



Can you upload the tracks of the song "Jamais je n'aurai cru avec voix témoin"
I would like to try to mix that one.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 02, 2012, 02:46:09 PM
ok, thank you ! Just one thing, is it possible to put a version without lead vocal ? For the show, pupills will sing live on the soundtrack, you mute juste the lead vocal.

For the next song, I have to go to Paris now, I try to upload the file this evenig and I put the link.

Thank you so !

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 02, 2012, 06:01:48 PM
no one to try the second I post ? For information

"I put the link of another song project too, which is on soundcloud. It is called "l'amitié". It's not my favorite but it's interesting musically. 2 different musical universes.

The beginning of the song is disco and the second part, rock.

Why ? In fact, it's a duet between the two main characters, a girl and a boy, teenagers, who are "slightly" different. She's good student while he prefers tag walls... But the power of love...

That's why there two universe and there's many tracks ! I hope someone will be able to do something good with !

http://dl.free.fr/p5RCwhZfq



Good luck ! I'm still here if you need...

PS : sorry, I forgot to tell you,  this project was exported in 24 bits and 48 KHz !  the tempo is 138"

I think it's more difficult thn the first one because there more tracks and two different universes as I told before
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 02, 2012, 06:04:25 PM
I'm uploading "jamais je n'aurais cru", I put the link as soon as it's done.

Thank you so much to everyone !
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 02, 2012, 10:21:40 PM
Ok, tracks are there

http://dl.free.fr/jTRCN8bif

Tempo si 125 and files exported on 24 bits and 44.1KHz
I have to add background vocals tracks when I'll have recorded it.
 Good luck
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Laguna on November 03, 2012, 12:23:03 AM
Hi,

I am also working on the charlot track, but won't be able to present anything til sunday. I am from southern Germany.

Best,
Laguna
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 03, 2012, 08:14:13 AM
ok, thank you ! Just one thing, is it possible to put a version without lead vocal ? For the show, pupills will sing live on the soundtrack, you mute juste the lead vocal.

Here are links for both versions in 44.1 16 bit wav files.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6TzRhb3Z1ZEtHVFU (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6TzRhb3Z1ZEtHVFU)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6LWpsY3FjOXpVM3M (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6LWpsY3FjOXpVM3M)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 03, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
Hi everybody

Sorry,I did a mistake with the last project I posted "jamais je n'aurais cru"

I put a wrong guitar track ! Sorry !!

You can download the good one here

http://dl.free.fr/r2ubH7XVk

:-( :-( :-(
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 04, 2012, 08:03:50 AM
Is someone working on it ?
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 04, 2012, 06:44:48 PM
I can propose you a fourth one which is called "artiste en herbe"

It's one my favorites. I love lyrics.

files are here

http://dl.free.fr/n1vAodh1W

I sang a witness voice :-)

tempo is 100

One track is a oboe solo I played with my VST. I'll record a true one tuesday, I will post the new track.

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 04, 2012, 07:52:07 PM
"jamais je n'aurais cru"
Not the final version. Missing those background vocals.


Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 04, 2012, 08:57:23 PM
thank you moonwrist

one more time I love what you've done !

If I'm allowed, I have 2-3 comment

first, it's my fault, there's still a pb withthe guitar, I guess you heard it, so I can propose a last one track, a really one but I don't knowif you'll be able to to something good with it !

here

http://dl.free.fr/jyc4OZqop


second, about organ, I think there's too much reverb and it's too loud, I imagined it more background.

And last, the clarinet. In its first part, while she's singing,it's good, but its second part, at 3'47'' it's a solo and clarinet have to be in front of. Could you "boost" it ? I know the recording is not very good, sorry...

For the rest, it's great !

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 06, 2012, 11:17:09 AM
Here is a second version after your feedback and with the new guitar track:


Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 06, 2012, 10:43:44 PM
For the last song, I put oboe track I recorded today, tomorrow..
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 07, 2012, 09:34:07 AM
ok,

so, oboe track is here (for the song "artiste en herbe" of course)

http://dl.free.fr/vJJWjhnTP

There are disturbing noises but altogether I think that it will be not heard, or then maybe we can remove them? I did not realize that I sang behind... sorry... there's slightly foot noise of the musician.

Nevertheless I think that the track is exploitable.

Tell me if there's some problem
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on November 07, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
Did a mix of l´amitié
Hope you like it

l´amitié MortenDK mix (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1255096/l%C2%B4amiti%C3%A9%20MortenDK%20Mix.01.mp3)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 07, 2012, 01:59:19 PM
Yeah ! Thank you Morten, I like it very much !

But... I can't hear the drums at the first part, where is it ???

I hear you add guitar, isn't it ?

I like many things in all cases !

You could send me another version with drums ?

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on November 07, 2012, 02:53:28 PM
Didnt use the drums in the first part! ;) and I didnt add anything either!.
I tryed to enhance or contrast the 2 parts more to get a better feel for the Woman part of the duet!. Thats why theres no drums until the first gtr rock part.
I cant make a revision before maybe friday night or saturday evening tho, as Im swamped at work.
Listen to it and see if it grows on ya! in the meantime :)
  
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 07, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
ok Morten,

after listenning again, You may be right ;-)

but one thing,

levels are different between different parts, could you adjust that ? I think the second part (when the guitar arrives) and the third one are louder than the first one...

it's great !
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on November 07, 2012, 04:24:29 PM
well yea! its to help with the contrast between the female more soft and spacious and the male more in your face and agressive! ;)
Its allso to have a kinda progressive feel to the song as it builds up!. :)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 07, 2012, 04:54:13 PM
ok morten, I will try like this with the singers, if there's a level problem, I will tell you.

Please Could you put the .wav file ?

Could you tell me too where do you from ?
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on November 07, 2012, 05:06:46 PM
Plz do tell me and I´ll adjust it! :)
Listen if anyone else does a mix of this and you like it better!, feel free to use that mix!. Dont feel entitled to use my mix if you know what I mean :)
‹––– Im from Denmark! :D

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 07, 2012, 05:13:37 PM
ok but I think no one else is working on it...
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 07, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
is someone working on "artiste en herbe" ?  ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 08, 2012, 08:05:56 AM
hi Morten

I listened again and I like very much what you did ! About your last reply, euh.... I don't understand what you mean ???
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on November 08, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
I just said that if anyone makes a better mix of l´amitié feel free to use that!.
Glad you liked the mix!. Did you try it with the singers yet!?
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 08, 2012, 12:16:31 PM
not yet, I'm still on holydays, until monday :-), I'll see my student thursday.

I've recorded Two witness voices, Caro (my colleague who with I've written the show), who sings the female voice and... me, tomorrow, I'm going to try to put this voices on your mix, without changing levels between different parts.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Dixitpag on November 09, 2012, 04:44:13 PM
I'll take a look on "Artiste en Herbe". I can't promise anything, but I'll try it.
Good luke with the project.

Je vais jeter un œil à "Artiste en Herbe". Je ne peux rien promettre, mais je vais essayer.
Bonne chance pour le projet. C'est cool.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 09, 2012, 05:29:12 PM
Ok Dixitpag, thank you !

Good luck !
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 10, 2012, 08:08:06 AM
Pierretitz.
Can you upload the tracks of the song "Les poètes" please.
I would like to try to mix that one.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 10, 2012, 09:09:08 AM
Ok moonwrist

I'm going to do,  I didn't put it before because I have to record a third voice for the chorus. The singer, a friend of mine, is not available before wednesday, I think I'll record her this day so I'll put this last voice as soon as I'd recorded it.

I have to change a word between the two last chorus...
You can download the other tracks here

http://dl.free.fr/l4sodDTNE
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 11, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
if someone want to try another one...

My last one.




... which is the first song of the show
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: drums63 on November 11, 2012, 10:37:37 PM
You can recharge your tracks? ;D ;D
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 11, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
Ok

Here is it

http://dl.free.fr/lT577XNrt
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Dixitpag on November 12, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
Bonjour Pierre.

I was about to upload a mix of Artiste en Herbe, but I still have a doubt about the end of the music. Do you want all the instruments to vanish except oboe and snare drum like on your soundclound acount or do you what them all to go 'til the end ? (and maybe with a fade out)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 12, 2012, 07:09:55 PM
Hi dixitpag,

you've all understood !

yes I Would like a fade out of everything except oboe and snare, then fade out of snare and the oboe which finish alone, but for that, The oboe track has to be good, is the case ?

One question, at the end, is it possible to get the oboe more "legato" ? at the sixteenth, with an appropriate reverb perhaps ?

Thank you for your help,

Pierre

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: imispgh on November 12, 2012, 10:27:05 PM
Here is a second version after your feedback and with the new guitar track:


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You do good work
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Dixitpag on November 13, 2012, 10:40:01 AM
Here is my contribution on "Artiste en Herbe".
Is it close to what you imagined ?




You can find the wav file with voice here :
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xq3lglww6iun3xh/92nYZsxHJn/Musique/Artiste%20en%20Herbe-Master-Voix.wav
And without voice here :
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xq3lglww6iun3xh/2nUvh4BYW4/Musique/Artiste%20en%20Herbe-Master-Instru.wav
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 13, 2012, 06:53:42 PM
thank you dixitpag,

I like it very much.

But, listenning, I heard many bad chords in th dobro track (acoustic guitar...) so I corrected it, you can download the good track here and replace

http://sendbox.fr/pro/t4frc6sjgfbr/dobro.wav.html

Ok for the end but I'm wrong or I heard the two oboes ? If I'm right, I wish the true one (hautbois catherine) replace the other one.

And is it possible to put slightly louder clavinets and celesta (a very little bit...)

Tell me if there's a pb, for the rest, it's good !!!

PS : where do you from dixitpag ?

Pierre
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 13, 2012, 06:55:17 PM
I forgot, the password to download is "dobro" :-)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 14, 2012, 07:02:11 AM
Pierretitz.
Could you check the tracks of "Les Poetes".
I think your upload miss more tracks than just the third vocal in chorus like ac guitar and some keys.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 14, 2012, 09:15:02 AM
Hi moonwrist,

sorry, many tracks were created but finally not used, as piano. Firstly, I thought to play a piano part but finally I gave up the idea.

You should have tracks of congas, loop, double bass, acoustic guitar and 2 female voices, the third one will be recorded this afternoon, I put the link this evening

Is it ok ? Have you every tracks ?

sorry, for the disturbance..  :-[

Pierre
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 14, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
hi moonwrist,

this is the third voice of "les poetes"

http://dl.free.fr/rIXtylOTc

I hope everything is good now

pierre

PS : tomorrow, I will put a choir track of "jamais je n'aurais cru" I've recorded today

Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 15, 2012, 08:30:51 AM
Hi moonwrist,

sorry, many tracks were created but finally not used, as piano. Firstly, I thought to play a piano part but finally I gave up the idea.

You should have tracks of congas, loop, double bass, acoustic guitar and 2 female voices, the third one will be recorded this afternoon, I put the link this evening
The acoustic guitar track isn't in the archive you uploaded.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 15, 2012, 08:51:35 AM
ok moonwrist, sorry, I will check it and put as soon as possible

wainting, you can download the last track of "jamais je n'aurais cru", a female choir track I recorded yesterday too.

http://dl.free.fr/ix7o8NppD

please don't put it too loud, it's just a choir but I don't worry ... :-)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 15, 2012, 09:52:55 AM
and the guitar track of "les poetes"  I had forgotten   ::)

http://dl.free.fr/l61tp0rqe

...
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Dixitpag on November 15, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
Hi.

Is the "flute" on Colossus the old oboe ? I though it was a flute :/ Sorry.
Concerning this track, the glockenspiel is on the same wave file as the "flute". So if I remove the flute, there is no glockenspiel anymore. Could you export the glockenspiel alone ?

And I'm from Belfort. ( https://maps.google.fr/?ll=47.645631,6.841155&spn=0.111603,0.175953&t=w&z=13 )
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 16, 2012, 08:30:55 AM
you're right dixitpag,

celesta and oboe were export on a same track, probably beause it's the same vst ?!?

Ok, I've muted the oboe track and export the celesta.

it's there

http://dl.free.fr/eVHhWVD35

Pierre
Belfort en france ?
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 16, 2012, 02:50:38 PM
wainting, you can download the last track of "jamais je n'aurais cru", a female choir track I recorded yesterday too.

please don't put it too loud, it's just a choir but I don't worry ... :-)

Let me know what you think.


Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 16, 2012, 04:08:41 PM
ok moonwrist, no soucy, it's the the level I would.

Could you put me the .wav files with and without lead vocal ?

Have you get the guitar track back for the other song "les poetes" ? And the third voice ?

Thank you

Pierre
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 17, 2012, 05:56:12 AM
Here are links for both versions of "jamais je n'aurais cru" in 44.1 16 bit wav files.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6MWZQc3lxY2JhSms (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6MWZQc3lxY2JhSms)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6Qk5MVTR5TF9rZ2c (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6Qk5MVTR5TF9rZ2c)

Yes I have all the tracks of "les poetes" but I haven't got it ready.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on November 18, 2012, 03:35:19 PM
Heres l`amitié as a wav.
No vocals as the download I got didnt have any vocals!

16/44.1

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1255096/l%C2%B4amiti%C3%A9%20MortenDK%20Mix.01.wav (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1255096/l%C2%B4amiti%C3%A9%20MortenDK%20Mix.01.wav)
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 18, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
ok morten, thank you

it's curious, there's no fade out yet !
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: MortenRa on November 18, 2012, 11:17:06 PM
You have anything special i mind on the fade out!?
Course you didnt specify anything that I could find!. So I thought you would leave it up to the mastering!.
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: pierretitz on November 19, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
ok morten

I think I'm going to record children singing because your mixs are gorgeous ! We plan to record a disc before the show. It will enable us to finance a trip to england, where the show will be played. Is it possible for eveyone ?

Thank you to all of you !

Pierre
Title: Re: help us !!!
Post by: Moonwrist on November 20, 2012, 03:17:20 PM
Here is: "Les poetes"
Some artistic freedom with fade in and out.


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Post by: pierretitz on November 20, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
thank you moonwrist, you've all understood... I love....

Honestly, you knew how to balance the voices and I love the idea of fades... in and out !

great ! great ! great !

Don't stop to help me !

Pierre
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Post by: Dixitpag on November 21, 2012, 09:29:08 AM
Is this better ?




(Je viens de Belfort en France, près de la frontière suisse)
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Post by: Moonwrist on November 21, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
Here are links for both versions of "Les poetes" in 44.1 16 bit wav files.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6N2dvakRZZHpZSGc (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6N2dvakRZZHpZSGc)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6d25LbGdrUEx4NTQ (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6d25LbGdrUEx4NTQ)
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Post by: yianz G. on November 22, 2012, 11:00:53 AM
hi pierre,
just tell me which song do you want to mix and i ll give a try.
good luck!
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Post by: Moonwrist on November 23, 2012, 03:22:45 PM
Par deux


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Post by: pierretitz on November 23, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
one more time I  love what you did moonwrist.
just one thing, I recorded voices with a dynamic micro (sm58), I get a new record with a static, voice's sound is very better ! I put new tracks tomorrow, if you can do the change, it would be cool !

thank you moonwrist, I would be very happy you if accept at the end to do the mastering of all songs .

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Post by: pierretitz on November 24, 2012, 07:34:18 AM
the new voices of "par deux" moonwrist..

http://dl.free.fr/iDhZMVG49
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Post by: Moonwrist on November 24, 2012, 10:54:00 AM
"Par deux" with the new vocal tracks.



I'm glad that you like what I've done.

With regard to the mastering of these songs I'm afraid that my skills are not enough.
I don't have any experience with mastering.
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Post by: Moonwrist on November 27, 2012, 08:05:37 AM
Pierretitz, could you upload the tracks of the song: "Rendez-vous manqué"
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Post by: pierretitz on November 27, 2012, 06:59:18 PM
Ok moonwrist, I put the link tomorrow...
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Post by: pierretitz on November 28, 2012, 12:06:23 PM
ok moonwrist, you can download files here

http://dl.free.fr/kAzbtclhF
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Post by: pierretitz on November 28, 2012, 01:44:36 PM
about this last song, I probably put another strings track (at the end). A really strings quartet I wrote, I'll record it next week. You have to replace it but I think it's not pb to begin the mix !  ;)
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Post by: pierretitz on December 01, 2012, 06:28:22 AM
Songs of act II come soon...

Many surprises...
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Post by: Moonwrist on December 14, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
Hello Pierretitz.
How your project has progressed?

Here is "Rendez-vous manqué" with the old string track.


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Post by: pierretitz on December 15, 2012, 02:18:26 PM
hi moonwrist,

thank you for "rendez-vous manqué", I should have strings quartet track monday, I'll send you asa soon as.
 
The project goes its way on. The next song I'll send next week is a song with only a piano, witness voice and a real flügel horn I recorded yesterday. I wrote a choral arrangement too and I'm recording my pupils this week and the next one. There is four voices, each recorded by 60 pupils ! There's many work at mix !
I played (and recorded) the piano part on a real bösendorfer piano. There is a big work of processing of the sound, in particular a painful frequency around 2000 Hz (between 1800 and 2000 I think) and around voices. More information next week.

While waiting for I have a title of my group to mix with piano, voice, bass, accordion and violin. Would it be possible to have a version with everything and a just just with the piano and the voice ? Unfortunately for this title it is enough in a hurry and I need a mix for tuesday !

files are here, tempo is 80

http://dl.free.fr/n2XDiUQZB

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Post by: Moonwrist on December 15, 2012, 06:51:20 PM
Good to hear.

Recording piano isn't easy.
Have you tried different microphone configurations? There is a lot of different ways to record a piano. You can find examples with google picture search and take some ideas to try out.
https://www.google.fi/search?num=10&hl=fi&authuser=0&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=955&q=micing+a+piano&oq=micing+a+piano&gs_l=img.3...1315.16018.0.16977.14.6.0.8.8.0.142.803.0j6.6.0...0.0...1ac.1.0OrKcC3a4ew (https://www.google.fi/search?num=10&hl=fi&authuser=0&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=955&q=micing+a+piano&oq=micing+a+piano&gs_l=img.3...1315.16018.0.16977.14.6.0.8.8.0.142.803.0j6.6.0...0.0...1ac.1.0OrKcC3a4ew)

And if you have spare channels you could use more that just two mic. One pair close to hammers. One pair at the edge of the side and one pair 1-2 meters in the room. These pairs can be either XY or spaced pairs depending witch sounds best. And remember that height is important factor as it affect the balance between direct sound from the strings and reflection from the lid. That might be the case with the boost in 2k region and it might be fixed by simply turning mics away from the lid and more towards the strings.

Good luck with your quest for the perfect piano sound :)
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Post by: pierretitz on December 16, 2012, 01:01:29 AM
Thank you moonwrist for your advices ! But unfortunately the piano is already recorded...

We used 2 micros (c414 akg) placed under the chords close to hammers and recorded in a stereo track, I hope we'll be able to do something good with it. I know that if it's possible you'll do it !

The flugel horn and a witness voice are already recorded too.

It remains 6 tracks of choirs (6 have been already recorded). I wrote a four parts choirs, each part is sung by 3 classes (20 pupils in each) !

I do it before holydays (this week ) and I put it as soon as ! I hope you'll like it !

About "rendez-vous" I told you I should get the real strings track monday, is it possible to put louder the trumpet solo ? I'm still thinking about organ sound you made (with low sounds), I'll listen it tomorrow again and I tell you what.

Have a good night !
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Post by: Moonwrist on December 17, 2012, 01:17:40 PM
Here is a new version of "Rendez-vous manqué"
Trumpet solo is louder and more up front.
And I muted the low organ.



And two version of song "story"





Let me know what you think and I can make a new version tonight.
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Post by: pierretitz on December 17, 2012, 07:30:41 PM
hi moonwrist,

thank you for "rendez-vous", it's perfect, unfortunetaly the recording of the strings quartet I should have is rotten ! I hope I can get a new one soon !

About "story", I love the processing of the voice and the piano but I think we have to remove the bass which plays the same part as the piano and the accordion.

Could you send me a last version with just piano/voice and violin at the end ?
a last thing, is it possible to put the piano slightly down between 2'15'' and 2'25'' ? oups I forgot, could you fade out the violin at the last note he plays ?


Thank you moonwrist

Pierre
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Post by: Moonwrist on December 17, 2012, 08:32:43 PM
OK so here are links for the files:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6NjlVSkxvcklRZnM (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6NjlVSkxvcklRZnM)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6WVl0ZVZMV19TaVk (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6WVl0ZVZMV19TaVk)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6VHc0YlY3UnVuS2s (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6VHc0YlY3UnVuS2s)
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Post by: pierretitz on December 18, 2012, 08:12:32 AM
thank you moonwrist

about "rendez-vous" can you send me the version without voices ?

If I can get a true strings quartet, I send you as soon as... Don't you know one ?

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Post by: Moonwrist on December 19, 2012, 11:03:03 AM
Rendez-vous
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6ZzVhRzllbG5STDA (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6ZzVhRzllbG5STDA)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6aFhOMTVkcWx4djA (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8B-4Y2Mj6m6aFhOMTVkcWx4djA)

Sorry no string quartet that I know.
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Post by: pierretitz on December 19, 2012, 12:28:20 PM
thank you moonwrist,

I will try with VSL for the quartet...
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Post by: pierretitz on December 19, 2012, 07:56:46 PM
her is the new song, "j'ai rêvé de gloire"

http://dl.free.fr/hK4Kw7twR

tempo is 85

there's piano (real bösendorfer, many works to equal the sound, please not too compress... I want to keep the original acoustic sound ! there's an annoying frequency around 2000Hz (1800-2000 I think)

there's a flügel horn, a witness lead vocal. Could the flügel horn come in fade (the first note) and the same when he come back at the end.

and.... many vocals... 12 tracks ! (3*4 different vocals called A, B, C and D !)

You will have to normalize tracks, delete background noises (I do not know how we make) and distribute in the panoramic. I think that the tracks of choirs are propped up.

I put the link for beginning to prepare the mix, I will add drums, bass and guitar this weekend, I put it as soon as

I think it's a big challenge but it can be very fun !

I count on you moonwrist ;-)

thank you

pierre
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Post by: pierretitz on December 21, 2012, 08:26:48 AM
Somebody to say to me if sound recordings are exploitable?

if you want further infomations don't hesitate !

pierre
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Post by: pierretitz on December 25, 2012, 11:57:25 AM
merry christmas to everyone and thanks a lot again for everything you do, you did et you'll do for us ! I wish I'll can invite you all to our show but it seems to be difficult ! I'll send you the video of the show !

Pierre 
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Post by: pierretitz on December 26, 2012, 03:19:44 PM
I have recorded last parts of song "j'ai rêvé de gloire".

files are here

http://dl.free.fr/f2LUUISjR

there is drums, bass, elec. guitar and I recorded another witness vocal. You can replace the old one by the new one.

thanks so

Pierre
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Post by: Moonwrist on January 01, 2013, 04:50:21 PM
Pierretitz if you have time you could edit your opening post.
Gather all the songs and downloading links in order so they are easier to find as they now are in different messages and harder to find.
You might get more replies and mixes when other forum members can easily find all the song and tracks in the opening post.
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Post by: pierretitz on January 05, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
I agree with you moonwrist but I am afraid that the links of first songs are obsolete now !
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Post by: spinner003 on January 09, 2013, 07:41:03 PM
Would be interested in giving one of the tracks a go but can't seem to access the dropbox files. Do you still need help?
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Post by: pierretitz on January 10, 2013, 05:38:51 PM
of course,

I still have seven songs to mix !
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Post by: spinner003 on January 10, 2013, 06:35:29 PM
I'm interested in giving a song a try. Please send me a dropbox link with the files in .wav format on contact@andrespiteri.com and I'll d/l and work on it.

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Post by: spinner003 on January 14, 2013, 08:52:20 PM
Almost finalised artist en herbe. Just have a quick question. Do you want a version with the scratch vocal mixed in or just the instrumental?
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Post by: pierretitz on January 14, 2013, 09:16:13 PM
both... :-)
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Post by: pierretitz on January 14, 2013, 09:24:44 PM
you listened the stereo out ? the song finish with a fade out of all except snare and oboe which fade after, I don't know if you did it...
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Post by: spinner003 on January 14, 2013, 09:34:16 PM
Yes I did that.

Just need to mix vocals and finalise the mix. Will try to post it on wednesday
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Post by: Moonwrist on January 15, 2013, 02:14:10 PM
I agree with you moonwrist but I am afraid that the links of first songs are obsolete now !
Maybe you could get a google drive or a dropbox account and upload tracks there?
Google drive give you 5 GB for free.
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Post by: spinner003 on January 16, 2013, 07:19:54 PM
Here's my mix of Artiste en herbe, one with vocals and one without.
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Post by: spinner003 on January 17, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Here's a drier version of the 2 mixes. Hope I understood what you meant!
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Post by: spinner003 on January 19, 2013, 01:17:42 PM
Here's the revised mixes as we talked about in your PM
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Post by: spinner003 on January 19, 2013, 01:21:21 PM
And these are the mixes with the celesta still playing untill the end.
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Post by: spinner003 on January 19, 2013, 03:17:37 PM
Bass louder one more time! :)
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Post by: spinner003 on January 19, 2013, 05:31:31 PM
Here's the final mix with a quicker fade out on the oboe.
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Post by: pierretitz on January 26, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
another song come soon...
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Post by: Moonwrist on January 26, 2013, 05:27:08 PM
Pierretitz could you check your forum inbox.
I have tried to send you two messages. Have you got them?

Eagerly waiting for your next upload.
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Post by: spinner003 on February 13, 2013, 07:35:33 AM
Hey Pierretitz did you get my PM?
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Post by: pierretitz on February 15, 2013, 07:33:11 AM
of course spinner, excuse me, I have a pb with my computer, that's why I hadn't post new song... I will do eveything this week end or next week (I'm going to write something on your site too... ;-)

I'll come soon....

pierre
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Post by: pierretitz on March 02, 2013, 07:46:58 PM
Hi everybody, I'm back !!

here's a new song which is called "ah nos mères !"

http://dl.free.fr/rDg6G6tOK

tempo is 110

there's piano, organ, elec. guitar, banjo, drums, bass, lead vocal a track melodica and 5 takes of violin recorded by a friend of mine.

I still haven't taken my cubase back  that's why there's all tracks. You're allowed to delete a lot of them.

In the chorus I think the song doesn't need violin... It's my opinion...

This song is funny... If you have ideas of effect or other things....

I 'm there if you have any questions...

Good luck to all of you

Pierre
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Post by: pierretitz on March 03, 2013, 09:50:27 AM
an idea of the song without violin and melodica...




It is necessary to sort the violins'tracks out.  I don't be sure it have to keep it....

After the first chorus, there's a piano solo, I think there's no need violin too....
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Post by: spinner003 on March 05, 2013, 07:37:50 AM
Hey Pierre, I've been looking forward to this! Downloaded the files and will be getting to work on it later this week.
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Post by: pierretitz on March 11, 2013, 10:43:35 PM
hi everyone

I recorded other voices for the song "ah nos mères !"

you can download it here

http://dl.free.fr/h3rVad6In

zip contains a new lead vocal (You have to replace the old one) and two background vocals at the last chorus.

I think background should be placed on left and right pan instead of lead should stay at center.

Thanks a lot

Pierre
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Post by: pierretitz on March 12, 2013, 06:16:03 PM
I don't have news... Is someone working on it ?
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Post by: spinner003 on March 13, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Hi Pierre, I'm starting on it today...
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Post by: pierretitz on March 13, 2013, 11:20:45 AM
cool !! thanks André, don't hesitate if you have questions about the song or arrangement...
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Post by: spinner003 on March 13, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
Pierre, I have problems unzipping the first file you uploaded. Can you re-zip and resend via dropbox please?
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Post by: pierretitz on March 13, 2013, 07:53:52 PM
curious... ok I try to do it this evening
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Post by: pierretitz on March 13, 2013, 10:04:39 PM
try here

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxksyugrzi2oyhe/ah%20nos%20meres.rar

tell me if there's ok

pierre
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Post by: spinner003 on March 14, 2013, 07:38:28 AM
Thank you Pierre. I'll download it this evening and let you know if it works.
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Post by: Moonwrist on March 14, 2013, 10:07:53 AM
OK here is one mix of "ah nos meres".



I did keep some violins and there is kind of three different songs. One kind of country. What else can it be while there is a banjo  ;D
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Post by: pierretitz on March 14, 2013, 10:31:12 AM
ok moonwrist

I think there's a pb with the drums no ? It seems to have a lag between drums and bass...

Could you post another version with original drums ? I'm not sure of the sound of snare too...

For the rest it seems to be not so bad but it's difficult to realize...

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Post by: Moonwrist on March 14, 2013, 01:13:51 PM
Sorry. Stupid mistake and I don't know how that happened or why I didn't noticed it  :-[
Here is corrected version.


It is a busy mix but what did you had in mind about the snare or rest of the mix?
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Post by: spinner003 on March 14, 2013, 09:24:29 PM
Hey Pierre the new link is working. I'll be posting my mix by early next week.

Andre'
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Post by: stoman on March 16, 2013, 08:28:32 AM
Hey, guys!

Are there any download links anywhere that have not expired? I might give this project a go - provided that I can find the time.

Regards,
  Steffen
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Post by: VasDim on March 16, 2013, 10:52:01 AM
Hi pierretitz,
Here is my mix:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/70048273/Mixoff/Ah%20Nos%20Meres%20-%20VasDim%60s%20Mix.wav
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Post by: stoman on March 16, 2013, 01:28:39 PM
@VasDim:
The drums are not aligned with the rest of the song. They have to be moved to the left until the first kick hit and the bass are in sync.

Regards,
  Steffen
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Post by: stoman on March 16, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
This isn't a decent mix yet, just a quick, rough preview:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32263355/Ah_nos_meres_20130316_03_v1_mixbus.mp3

My hearing isn't good today. I'll see if I can do the details work tomorrow or tonight.

Regards,
  Steffen

P.S.: Updated! ... and a second time. :)

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Post by: pierretitz on March 17, 2013, 08:06:40 AM
Hi everybody

I post a new song which is called "la commande"! It's less happy than previous :-)

here are files

http://dl.free.fr/jWJsJaRFH

tempo is 70

you can get an idea




there's many tracks : loop, bass (fretless+harm),piano, lead vocal, synth(arp2600),many strings tracks, I think that's all !

I don't know if two bass tracks are separate because it's the same vst, same for strings... Tell me if there's a pb.
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Post by: stoman on March 17, 2013, 02:12:12 PM
This is my final version of "Ah, nos mères":
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32263355/Ah_nos_meres_20130316_04_v1_mixbus.mp3

This is more or less how I want the sound to be - I just don't like the provided drums. They have been over-processed and sound thin and cheap IMO. They are midi, aren't they? Having access to the midi files could probably help.

Anyway, this is a great little song, and it was fun doing the mix, even though I know it is not the sound Pierre is looking for (which, however, may not be easy to accomplish).

Regards,
  Steffen

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Post by: pierretitz on March 18, 2013, 04:32:13 PM
thank you steffen
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Post by: spinner003 on March 19, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
Hey Pierre, just sent you a PM :)
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Post by: spinner003 on March 23, 2013, 08:26:05 AM
Hey Pierre, haven't heard from you. Did you get my pm?
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Post by: pierretitz on March 25, 2013, 07:41:35 AM
Hi everyone,

Did someone have a look on "la commande" ? what do you think about it ?

I will post one of my las songs soon.... Probably today !

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Post by: Moonwrist on March 26, 2013, 02:48:18 PM
Here is a mix of "la commande"


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Post by: pierretitz on March 26, 2013, 03:45:41 PM
Hi everyone

Here is new song "joue pas avec le feu"

http://dl.free.fr/gplESa7k3

It´s a kind of electro song, it makes me think of depeche mode

Specially in the album "music for the masses"

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Post by: Moonwrist on April 01, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
"joue pas avec le feu"


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Post by: pierretitz on April 07, 2013, 08:00:31 AM
Hi everyone,

my project comes to an end and I would like to thank each of you for your help ! (specially moonwrist and andré)...

Thanks to you the pupils should have a great show !

I have a last service to be asked (but not the least...) , would anybody feel capable of mastering the 12 titles ?

I know it's a hard work but I think it would conclude a great teamwork...

Pierre
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Post by: spinner003 on April 08, 2013, 06:41:03 AM
Pierre, it's been a pleasure. Unfortunately I've had some ear problems this past month and will have to take a break from mixing for a while.
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Post by: pierretitz on April 08, 2013, 06:48:01 AM
Thank you anyway André

I know what is it, I have ear problems too... what a sh...

Perhaps someone else...