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Title: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on May 07, 2012, 04:59:51 AM
Ermin Hamidovic of Systematic Productions has agreed to judge our next Mixoff contest, and to provide a copy of his excellent new eBook, "The Systematic Mixing Guide" as the prize!

This song is a heavy rock song with loads of production, there are plenty of opportunities for creative moves, automation, effects, etc, so go nuts! There are 59 tracks total, many are synth bits, etc, so be sure to listen to them and make good decisions!

The tracks can be downloaded here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/721667/TheOneTracks.zip

The rules are as usual; 2 weeks from today, May 7th to submit your mixes. Ermin will give notes on your first mix, feel free to make tweaks and submit a 2nd mix, but you won't get notes on that one.

Loudness of the mix isn't a factor, so don't go crazy trying to 'master' the track, but present it as you would to a client.

Please make your mixes downloadable, if you use Soundcloud, be sure to select the option that lets users download the track. You can submit MP3s, but keep your bit rate high enough to avoid artifacts (192k is probably the minimum you'd want.)

Have fun!

Be sure to check out Ermin's site, and read about his book here: http://www.systematicproductions.com/mixing-guide.htm
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: vvv on May 07, 2012, 11:20:12 AM
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Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: MortenRa on May 07, 2012, 12:21:42 PM
Looking forward to it!!. :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 07, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
Hey everyone,

Thanks for having me! Hoping we can have a bit of fun with what I know to be an awesome song that's very fun to mix. We intentionally selected a song that was heavily layered and indicative of the way many current commercial tracks are being built. It's all about focusing each element into its dominant zone, using automation to keep it coherent throughout the sections, and generally trying to shift the listener's attention around all while keeping everything as clear and punchy as possible.

I've received one request from the artist, and that's for you to not use your final mixes as portfolio/promotional material on your own sites, blogs etc. This is an unfortunate byproduct of some licensing woes which are beyond his control, and we apologize for that.

If you want to hear the original mix of the song, you can stream it in 320kbps from my site www.systematicproductions.com

Otherwise you can get a quick'n'dirty preview on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvyb1QVokAw

So let's have at it! Can't wait to hear what you guys come up with.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Lastrite on May 07, 2012, 03:25:29 PM
Awesome. I'm a big fan of your work mr. Ermz. I already have the e-book, but I'm looking forward to your judgement!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: AstralPStudios on May 07, 2012, 04:47:28 PM
I'll give it a go, no reason not to.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: MacFlyz on May 07, 2012, 04:58:33 PM
Is it just me or the download is awfully slow ?
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Lastrite on May 07, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
Yeah it's kinda slow.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on May 07, 2012, 06:12:39 PM
I'll share another copy via dropbox, it's uploading now, maybe that'll be faster. My hosting company is probably throttling the bandwidth...
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on May 07, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Here's another link for downloading the tracks: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/721667/TheOneTracks-1.zip

EDIT:Just got an email from Dropbox that my public link is suspended for excessive downloads. So, this link won't work for a few days, unfortunately...

5/13/12 - OK, the dropbox link is working again. As long as everyone isn't hitting it at once, it should be ok!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: TonyPizza on May 07, 2012, 10:10:47 PM
AWESOME! Are there any info´s as text file or something? Regarding the tempo.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on May 08, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
No text file, but you can get the tempo using a program like Music Math.

http://www.440audio.com/en/software/v1536-Laurent-Colson-Music-Math/

I'm sure there is a pc equivalent...
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: midas on May 08, 2012, 01:57:02 AM
REALLY cool song! 
having a lot of fun mixing this ;D
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: vvv on May 08, 2012, 05:08:31 AM
FWIW, and I've run into this before with MAC-created files, I couldn't open "Kick" and Vox8" in Cool Edit Pro 2.1 until I opened and saved 'em in Wavosaur first.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Lastrite on May 08, 2012, 09:29:22 AM
A tempo of 188 BPM lines up perfectly for me in REAPER... I thought I'd save some folks the trouble :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: CallMeReeko on May 08, 2012, 11:37:13 AM
hey everyone, I'm new here but I want to try this, seems like fun :)
Newbie question, how far can I go with mixing this? Can I add effects, do automations, slicing, production stuff, adding sounds, maybe change the vibe of some parts the song (just asking what is possible, not necessarily that I want to do it! ) or am I limited to just use these tracks the way they are and use only effects/automations/eq ? Sorry if it seems a strange question but I have never done any mixing contests! And where do I have to send the final mix once finished? thanks!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: TonyPizza on May 08, 2012, 12:18:51 PM
A tempo of 188 BPM lines up perfectly for me in REAPER... I thought I'd save some folks the trouble :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on May 08, 2012, 02:50:35 PM
hey everyone, I'm new here but I want to try this, seems like fun :)
Newbie question, how far can I go with mixing this? Can I add effects, do automations, slicing, production stuff, adding sounds, maybe change the vibe of some parts the song (just asking what is possible, not necessarily that I want to do it! ) or am I limited to just use these tracks the way they are and use only effects/automations/eq ? Sorry if it seems a strange question but I have never done any mixing contests! And where do I have to send the final mix once finished? thanks!

There aren't any limitations on this contest, so feel free to go crazy with edits, etc. As far as sharing your mix, you can use soundcloud.com, or dropbox.com. Just upload it there, get the link to share, and post the link here!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: TonyPizza on May 08, 2012, 09:47:06 PM
My TonyPizza mix aka MetalMiller on AndySneap forum ;)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%20-%20TonyPizza%20Mix.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%20-%20TonyPizza%20Mix.mp3)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 11, 2012, 12:43:45 AM
My TonyPizza mix aka MetalMiller on AndySneap forum ;)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%20-%20TonyPizza%20Mix.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%20-%20TonyPizza%20Mix.mp3)

Hey Tony,

I dig how you're giving the song some texture using effects on the leads.

If I might suggest, the start of the song sounds a bit empty. It would help to add some density and space to the section by verbing out the synths and perhaps thickening out the entire mix. I feel like I'm missing the bottom octave and overall density on the bass guitar, which is so vital to help build this song and help establish that groove on the verses.

Don't be afraid to go heavy-handed on overall mix compression in order to bring all the elements together and make the track pump. Any energy we can inject helps a ton.

Consider perhaps clearing the synths and guitars out of the high mids in order to create more breathing space for the vocals. Don't be afraid to go brutal on the drums with parallel compression in order to help beef things up either.

Cheers for the submission. Looking forward to hearing more!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: alex3293 on May 11, 2012, 02:16:47 AM
Hi all! Here's my mix:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12853836/The%20One_Master.mp3

Ermin, thank you for multitrack! Cool song, it was interesting to mixing. :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: melb_shredder on May 12, 2012, 07:02:31 AM
Well here's my draft attempt I guess... Would love to get some feedback on it :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/306055/Memnoir%20-%20The%20One%20VERSION%201.mp3
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 13, 2012, 12:49:18 AM
Hi all! Here's my mix:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12853836/The%20One_Master.mp3

Ermin, thank you for multitrack! Cool song, it was interesting to mixing. :)

Hey Alex,

I dig how you have the synths really padding the sides of the mix during the intro. It gives the track a dense, warm feel, while creating a lot of space for vocals in the verses. I also dig how you separated the verse aesthetic from the chorus aesthetic by controlling the verbs on the vocals.

Don't be afraid to carve away more mids - especially during the choruses. Tracks as dense as these live in the extremes, so consider expanding the bass further into the subs, and taking away any needless mids on the guitars. With that taken care of, you should have yourself quite an awesome mix!

Thanks a bunch for submitting.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 13, 2012, 12:59:41 AM
Well here's my draft attempt I guess... Would love to get some feedback on it :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/306055/Memnoir%20-%20The%20One%20VERSION%201.mp3

Hey Chris,

Cool telephone effect at the start. Wonder what inspired that? :P.

I dig how you're getting some sub content into the kick and keeping the lower mids free for the bass. There are some cool parts Evan is playing and it's always a shame if they get lost. Nice FX on the vocals too. A touch overdone on the choruses perhaps?

I wouldn't mind hearing a bit more sizzle and bite on the rhythm guitars, and perhaps a little more clarity on the harmonic lead part during the choruses. It's critical to the vibe coming across! Consider maybe gluing the drums back into the mix. The attacks sound somewhat separate from the body of the track, and whereas this can work for metal music at times it tends to be a different story for rock.

Cheers for taking the time to take part. It's cool hearing the original compressor that handled this track in action again. Sounds very familiar!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: melb_shredder on May 13, 2012, 07:10:06 AM
Well here's my draft attempt I guess... Would love to get some feedback on it :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/306055/Memnoir%20-%20The%20One%20VERSION%201.mp3

Hey Chris,

Cool telephone effect at the start. Wonder what inspired that? :P.

I dig how you're getting some sub content into the kick and keeping the lower mids free for the bass. There are some cool parts Evan is playing and it's always a shame if they get lost. Nice FX on the vocals too. A touch overdone on the choruses perhaps?

I wouldn't mind hearing a bit more sizzle and bite on the rhythm guitars, and perhaps a little more clarity on the harmonic lead part during the choruses. It's critical to the vibe coming across! Consider maybe gluing the drums back into the mix. The attacks sound somewhat separate from the body of the track, and whereas this can work for metal music at times it tends to be a different story for rock.

Cheers for taking the time to take part. It's cool hearing the original compressor that handled this track in action again. Sounds very familiar!

Don't know what you're talking about ;) haha. I've been spamming that damn radio effect lately, sometimes some things just call for it! Added some tremelo to it as well, I'm happy now :P
Thanks for the feedback. In hindsight, I may have gone a little too METAL on the drums. I need to go listen to that AIC song for a little reference etc me thinks! :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: melb_shredder on May 13, 2012, 08:43:11 AM
Well.. I'm out of free time, so here's the finished version of mine :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/306055/Memnoir%20-%20The%20One%20FINAL%20VERSION.mp3
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Spede on May 13, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
Hello. Let's bring some dynamics to this contest :)


http://soundcloud.com/spede-1/the-one-mixoff
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: don Livio on May 13, 2012, 04:41:08 PM
Hi there, first post here on MixOff.
My version of this awesome track:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44862070/Memnoir-The%20One.mp3
I went for a darker guitar tone than I'd usually choose and kept the rhythms a bit more subdued in the mix in order not to push it too far into the realms of brootz.
Reamping chain is Maxon OD808 into a Mini Rectifier mic'ed up with a M201TG and an AT SDC.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: TonyPizza on May 13, 2012, 09:21:50 PM
My TonyPizza mix aka MetalMiller on AndySneap forum ;)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%20-%20TonyPizza%20Mix.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%20-%20TonyPizza%20Mix.mp3)

Hey Tony,

I dig how you're giving the song some texture using effects on the leads.

If I might suggest, the start of the song sounds a bit empty. It would help to add some density and space to the section by verbing out the synths and perhaps thickening out the entire mix. I feel like I'm missing the bottom octave and overall density on the bass guitar, which is so vital to help build this song and help establish that groove on the verses.

Don't be afraid to go heavy-handed on overall mix compression in order to bring all the elements together and make the track pump. Any energy we can inject helps a ton.

Consider perhaps clearing the synths and guitars out of the high mids in order to create more breathing space for the vocals. Don't be afraid to go brutal on the drums with parallel compression in order to help beef things up either.

Cheers for the submission. Looking forward to hearing more!

Thanks for your words Ermin! Here´s a second one. Added some better tom samples and brought back in some low mids on bass. Snare got some Slate Z2 for more fullness. Also tweaked the overall compression and parallel comp. Can´t check on monitors atm, low-end could be a little to much...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%202.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/929252/The%20One%202.mp3)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: stickfigure on May 13, 2012, 11:15:46 PM
Hi, guys!

Here's my submission.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24873953/The%20One%20(Stickfigure%20mix).mp3

Thanks for the multitracks, Ermin. It's been fun mixing the song.
I bounced the instrumental tracks and compressed them as a whole before mixing in the vocals, and, in hindsight I feel the mix may have suffered from it.

Congratulations and thanks to the guys from Memnoir! Not sure if this a compliment, but I felt the song could have easily been on Dirt from Alice in Chains. I consciously avoided listening to the album as a reference for the mix because I didn't want to draw to much from it... maybe I should have... ;)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: leaky24 on May 14, 2012, 08:05:15 AM
Here's my 1st attempt

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10010222/the%20one%20Comp.mp3

Thanks for the awesome multitracks!!!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Moonwrist on May 14, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Hello

Here is my mix

http://soundcloud.com/moonwrist/memnoir-the-one (http://soundcloud.com/moonwrist/memnoir-the-one)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: midas on May 14, 2012, 10:09:39 PM
lots of tracks in this multitrack, it shure did beat up my poor old computer !! :P
thanks ermz and JohnSuitcase for this fun contest :)
here is my mix:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/51790150/one.mp3

cheers!

edit: no samples added
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 15, 2012, 05:18:48 AM
Hello. Let's bring some dynamics to this contest :)


http://soundcloud.com/spede-1/the-one-mixoff

Hey Spede,

I dig your balancing work. Nothing seems overly out of proportion and the track holds together well. I like how your dynamics between sections maintain cohesion, and it manages to sound like a collected song.

I'd personally consider opening the song up with more verbs and delays, in order to allow the depth factor to match the spectral balance. Look to the mid-bass and low-mid frequencies on the bass guitar, as they seem to be ringing over the top of the mix at the moment more so in a muddy way than a dense, punchy one.

Good stuff! Thanks for the submission.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: NothingRemains on May 15, 2012, 07:15:23 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1176760/Mixes/TheOne.mp3
Kept the drums all real - no triggering or such. Had a real good time mixing this - thanks for the track Ermz! ;D
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: 140dBspl on May 16, 2012, 08:58:46 AM
Hi guys!

This is my first mix... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/67245094/the_one_mix1.mp3

Thanks to Ermin for doing this  :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: K.H.E. on May 16, 2012, 08:27:26 PM
first post here, hi guys :)

thanks a lot emrin, had a lot of fun while mixing these tracks! :)
here is my try:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60974675/Memnoir_TheOne_KHE-V1.mp3

cheers!
khe
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: ridgybeatle on May 17, 2012, 04:01:17 PM
Hi guys,

There's a lot of great mixes posted here! Scary stuff for a new member like me. Here's my shot at the song -

http://soundcloud.com/ridgybeatle/the-one/s-pUcGt (http://soundcloud.com/ridgybeatle/the-one/s-pUcGt)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: MortenRa on May 17, 2012, 06:12:07 PM
Well shit! if Spede brings the dynamics, I´ll bring the 80´s!. :D
Heres my go at the song.
Thx to Ermin for doing this!.

The One MortenDK mix (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1255096/The%20One%20MortenDK%20Mix.06.mp3)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: WombatStudio.Org on May 17, 2012, 07:59:41 PM
I've messed with this a bit in between projects, each time with another perspective ... ready for thoughts ...

http://wombatstudio.org/MO/20120514-MO-TheOne-PT10-WL7M-S004.mp3

No samples and no additional tracks added.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 04:58:54 AM
Hi there, first post here on MixOff.
My version of this awesome track:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44862070/Memnoir-The%20One.mp3
I went for a darker guitar tone than I'd usually choose and kept the rhythms a bit more subdued in the mix in order not to push it too far into the realms of brootz.
Reamping chain is Maxon OD808 into a Mini Rectifier mic'ed up with a M201TG and an AT SDC.

Hey Don,

Cheers for the submission. I dig the more subdued and somber vibe at the start of your one. It's interesting how a different take on the mix can alter the mood of a song.

From a mix perspective you may want to look into opening things up a bit. Use the extremes - highs and lows. At the moment it's all very centered in the mids, and you could be losing punch and air as a result of that.

Cool guitar tone too! Reminds me of the original, which was reamped into a Dual Racktifier.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 05:14:48 AM
Hi, guys!

Here's my submission.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24873953/The%20One%20(Stickfigure%20mix).mp3

Thanks for the multitracks, Ermin. It's been fun mixing the song.
I bounced the instrumental tracks and compressed them as a whole before mixing in the vocals, and, in hindsight I feel the mix may have suffered from it.

Congratulations and thanks to the guys from Memnoir! Not sure if this a compliment, but I felt the song could have easily been on Dirt from Alice in Chains. I consciously avoided listening to the album as a reference for the mix because I didn't want to draw to much from it... maybe I should have... ;)

Love the intro!

I think it could be a good move to mix the vocals along with the instruments the next time around, as the lead vocal is somewhat uncomfortably on top of the mix. It also might be worthwhile checking that you're tuning them to the right key, as there are quite a few audibly out notes there!

Wouldn't mind some more punch from the drums, personally. On the whole it may be a good idea to go back and fundamentally rebalance the mix, perhaps on a different monitoring system.

Cheers for the submission.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 05:19:25 AM
Here's my 1st attempt

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10010222/the%20one%20Comp.mp3

Thanks for the awesome multitracks!!!

Like the fluidity of that intro transition. Nice work! Also enjoy how up-front the synths are during the verses, with the transition to more guitar-heavy during choruses. Good way to enhance the dynamics within the song.

Your grasp of dynamics and how to help a song flow appears to be very solid. If anything I would look to improve the fundamental mix balances between elements. Perhaps beef up the drums, and make sure that the bass is sitting more bass-heavy, rather than mid-bass or low-midrange heavy. Expanding the song across the frequency spectrum would help!

Good stuff, and thanks.

Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 05:25:00 AM
Hello

Here is my mix

http://soundcloud.com/moonwrist/memnoir-the-one (http://soundcloud.com/moonwrist/memnoir-the-one)

A more subdued sounding mix on the whole. Seems most of the highs here are a lot more gentle and blanketed. I wouldn't mind some more punch from the drums to help drive the energy forward, especially in lieu of the high frequencies which would normally be helping add aggression.

Interesting vocal panning FX on the chorus, and very unique way of mixing the synths. It's been quite cool to hear the song in this light, as my own approach to it was quite different.

If I were to suggest anything here, it would be to not be afraid to open up the highs a bit more, for the sake of clarity if nothing else. As usual, a bit more aggressive compression work on the drums wouldn't go amiss. Consider dropping some lower-midrange out of the bass, and allowing it to hold the deeper lows.

Thanks for that submission - it was quite eye opening as to how differently the mix could be tackled!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 05:47:04 AM
lots of tracks in this multitrack, it shure did beat up my poor old computer !! :P
thanks ermz and JohnSuitcase for this fun contest :)
here is my mix:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/51790150/one.mp3

cheers!

edit: no samples added

Getting straight to the point with no intro? I dig! I like how you brought out the slap bass in the verses - good thing to highlight.

There is a good sense of overall togetherness to this mix - it makes sense as a whole.

The only thing I could suggest would be to create a bit more clarity across the lower-midrange. Defining the bass from the guitars more down here would aid in separation as a whole and increase punch.

More of an editing thing, but if you're retuning any of the vocals, make sure that they're hitting the right notes. There are a few weird 'in between' lines here and there, but I know the raw tracks had a lot of that going on.

Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 05:51:48 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1176760/Mixes/TheOne.mp3
Kept the drums all real - no triggering or such. Had a real good time mixing this - thanks for the track Ermz! ;D

Glad to hear that you had a good time mixing it. Mixing under the right circumstances is always about having fun to a degree.

Cool unique way of handling the intro section. Getting more of an industrial vibe from this one.

If I might suggest, the choruses feel quite congested. It could be the rhythm guitar tone, and an over-abundance of midrange freuencies. Consider maybe pushing the vocals forward, at least for the choruses. The song can lose some of that commercial flavor if they're too far obscured by other mix elements.

Real nice to once again hear a unique take on the song that I wouldn't have had myself. Thanks for the submission!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 05:58:27 AM
Hi guys!

This is my first mix... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/67245094/the_one_mix1.mp3

Thanks to Ermin for doing this  :)

Really nice sense of movement to the start of the song. The use of delays really helps bounce the lines around. There is a good sense of punch between the kick and bass. One of the best balances we've heard so far!

Great use of automation and FX to transition the song around. Lots going on here.

From a fundamental mix balance point of view, you may want to consider pushing the rhythm guitars up, or finding a way to give them a bit more aggression. Opening up the mids in general would help space the song out and perhaps be conducive to your highly-delayed and verbed approach. I personally wouldn't mind hearing some more room or reverb on the drums in order to help their aesthetic match the guitars a little more.

Thanks for that submission. Very cool.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 06:04:44 AM
first post here, hi guys :)

thanks a lot emrin, had a lot of fun while mixing these tracks! :)
here is my try:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60974675/Memnoir_TheOne_KHE-V1.mp3

cheers!
khe

Hey K.E.H ;)

One of the more hi-fi mixes we've had. It's cool to hear a more opened up midrange here, and inherent space for those delays to do their thing.

It seems to be a common thing, but I would recommend getting a bit more brutal with your processing on the bass guitar. Opening up that lower-midrange and getting some more fundamental lows in there would be a good thing. Don't be afraid to go drastic with the bass - it commonly needs it! I feel like you might be missing some energy due to density in the low-end not being what it could be - this is particularly noticeable when the choruses kick in. Likewise, feel free to give the kick a bit more girth in order to match.

Cheers for the submission!

Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 06:10:41 AM
Hi guys,

There's a lot of great mixes posted here! Scary stuff for a new member like me. Here's my shot at the song -

http://soundcloud.com/ridgybeatle/the-one/s-pUcGt (http://soundcloud.com/ridgybeatle/the-one/s-pUcGt)

Now there we go, the uniqueness of this mix becomes immediately apparent. Very nice to hear the start of the song with some cleans. An instant vibe-changer.

If I might suggest, the vocals sound quite narrow and funneled into the higher frequencies. They seem to be missing some inherent body and throatyness. Perhaps less aggressive EQ in this regard would help. Conversely the lead guitars and rhythms seem somewhat dull and almost distant compared to the vocals. There is what feels like a spectral mismatch to me, and it's not helping the individual elements unify into what feels like a cohesive mix. Getting the vocals back down into thicker midrange regions would be a good start, and beyond that perhaps some more aggression to the guitars would help in order to match the aggressive delivery of the vocals.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 06:14:00 AM
Well shit! if Spede brings the dynamics, I´ll bring the 80´s!. :D
Heres my go at the song.
Thx to Ermin for doing this!.

The One MortenDK mix (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1255096/The%20One%20MortenDK%20Mix.06.mp3)

Hooray, another very unique take on the intro. Not sure whether it matches the vibe of the song to my personal taste, but it's a nifty idea!

The overall feeling of this mix is subdued and almost distant. I dig that it's a valid mix aesthetic, but for a song like this which is inherently energetic, aggressive and pseudo-commercial it may be a good idea to get more high-end energy in there. There's not much more I can add. Getting some brightness happening, including some overall balance tweaking (clearing up the lower midrange/midbass on bass guitar, more punch on kick, more open guitars etc. - the usual) should pretty much get you there!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 18, 2012, 06:18:17 AM
I've messed with this a bit in between projects, each time with another perspective ... ready for thoughts ...

http://wombatstudio.org/MO/20120514-MO-TheOne-PT10-WL7M-S004.mp3

No samples and no additional tracks added.  Thanks!

A lot more of a direct and raw vibe going on here - sweet!

The drums are such a unique and different aesthetic to what I would shoot for that I don't feel qualified commenting on them. I might suggest giving a bit more sub to the kick in order to move the song along, but beyond that they seem to serve they desired intention.

On the whole I personally wouldn't mind hearing some more reverb and space as a whole. To me it's a dense arrangement, and dense arrangements commonly look for breathing space wherever they can get it. Those synths and lead lines tend to love some chorusing, delay and reverb so it helps to give them that extra kick along.

A touch more compression wouldn't hurt on the whole. The lead vocal could use some in order to stay in its pocket a little more solidly, and all the mix elements would possibly pocket tighter with a bit more aggressive compression approach.

Cheers for that!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: MortenRa on May 18, 2012, 09:24:03 AM
Ok did a revised version with Ermins suggestions in mind!!. Thx for those!

The One MortenDK mix v2 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1255096/The%20One%20MortenDK%20Mix.07.mp3)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Jon on May 18, 2012, 01:31:24 PM

Well here is my attempt at this monster of a track.

http://soundcloud.com/jon-mardlin/the-one

Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: CallMeReeko on May 18, 2012, 01:40:31 PM
hey, here's my entry:

http://soundcloud.com/fedestonelizards/memnoir-the-one-mixoff-contest

It's actually one of my first mixes so I'm really looking forward to some feedbacks :) thank you
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: efp on May 18, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
http://soundcloud.com/efpbeats/the-one-st-mixdown-efp

Here is my try.

Thanks a lot for the nice track really!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Lastrite on May 18, 2012, 03:01:17 PM
Here's mine I guess. I'm sad to say I haven't had the chance to put all the time in this that it deserves. It's been busy and I'm leaving town for some FoH work this weekend, so this will have to do. No time for editing/tuning, dotting i's and crossing t's.

I did my best to take it in a different direction to keep it fresh, but I haven't heard any of the other mixes yet, so I may end up sounding exactly like the others :)

I stripped it down some and made some creative decisions that I would and should never get away with if this were a real client, but it's all in good fun I guess. Guitars, synths and electronic drums have taken more of a backseat in favor of the holy drum/bass/leadvox-trinity compared to Ermin's original mix. I tried to make it as dry as I could get away with without sounding small or thin. A poppy kind of punchy-in-yer-face watchamacallit sound... Or something...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11332908/MenmoirTheOne_Lastrite.mp3

Thanks a lot Ermin and Memnoir! Great song and the original mix is freakin' awesome!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: vvv on May 18, 2012, 10:47:10 PM
Aiight, here's mine:

http://soundcloud.com/vvv-4/memnoirs-the-one-vvv-mix

This were fun!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: SynergyRoom on May 19, 2012, 06:50:20 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/76696771/The%20One.mp3
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: bigjoe on May 19, 2012, 09:50:22 AM
Hi Guys :)
Maybe i'm late, but this is my try at it :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5632425/Ermin%20-%20The%20One.mp3

Thanks to Ermin :)

PS: i've listened many mixes, and they are all good, but i think 140dbSPL has done the best one for now, great job dude :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Apelsinet on May 19, 2012, 10:24:53 AM
Hi Ermin and everyone else! Here's my go at the song. Not 100% happy with the solidness and glue of the vocals but overall I'm happy with the mix! Was really fun to mix it and a very good recording.
http://soundcloud.com/mattiasprada/mixoff-the-one
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: WombatStudio.Org on May 19, 2012, 03:31:13 PM
So to confirm, deadline is midnight Monday night?
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on May 19, 2012, 06:45:04 PM
Yep, the mixes should be submitted by midnight Monday. Ermin will pick a winner, as soon as he gets through listening to all the mixes. Great work so far everyone!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Albano on May 19, 2012, 11:41:07 PM
Hi, here is my attempt: http://soundcloud.com/adr90/the-one-by-adr  I enjoyed mixing this track, it´s a cool song! Thanks to ermz for making this contest possible and for sharing his knowledge with us.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: 140dBspl on May 20, 2012, 02:43:12 PM
Ok, so this is my refined, 2nd mix:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/67245094/mixes/the_one_mix2.mp3
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: gLOW-x on May 20, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
Hi Ermz !
Nice to read you on another forum than Ultimate Metal  ;)

Here is my mix
http://soundcloud.com/glow-x/mnemoir-the-one-glow-x/s-IMeXe (http://soundcloud.com/glow-x/mnemoir-the-one-glow-x/s-IMeXe)

Any feed back is welcome  8)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Black Sheep on May 20, 2012, 10:50:26 PM
Here's my effort:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/543762/The%20One%20mixA.wav

Thanks to all who made this possible!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: FourFour on May 21, 2012, 04:51:53 AM
Hi all, first post here.

Been lurking for a while (downloading tracks to mix ;D). I had a really fun/educational time mixing this song. Getting the ambient stuff to bounce around etc

Here's my mix, Ermz:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5087715/The%20One%20-%20Memnoir%20(mixoff%20contest).mp3

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: slater05 on May 21, 2012, 05:50:56 AM
Well here's my go at it, and just in time haha. Not a lot of noteworthy things I did with the mix other than I reamped the guitar through a Mesa 4Fourty, mixed the original snare with a sample, instead of trashing it all together, kept all of the original Tom tracks, and even though I did master it relatively hard like I would have for a client, I still strove to get a dynamic contrast between the verse/chorus.

Looking forward to a review from Ermz! (if I'm not too late for that portion of the contest)

Slater


http://soundcloud.com/slater05/the-one-mixoff
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: sedit1 on May 21, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
Thanks Ermz for this opportunity! This was A great challenge and nice one to mix. Just noticed this competition last saturday so I had only two days to complete, but I still wanted to take part.

Here is my mix:

Mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12578903/TheOneMp3_Sedit1.mp3

Wav
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12578903/TheOneWav_Sedit1.wav

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: leaky24 on May 21, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
Made a few tweaks from the feedback i got,

My 2nd mix
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10010222/The%20One%20Comp%202.mp3

Thanks again Ermz.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: SynergyRoom on May 21, 2012, 09:22:08 PM
Revised mix ;D

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/76696771/The%20One.mp3
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 12:51:40 AM

Well here is my attempt at this monster of a track.

http://soundcloud.com/jon-mardlin/the-one

Hey Jon,

Was it intentional to not reamp the guitars? I had hoped originally that the artist would have provided the reamps we rolled with, but as unfortunately that wasn't the case, the onus is on the mixer to do that. I have to admit that the song sounds very odd with the guitars left as DI tracks, as that's rather not the desired effect for the song.

My suggestion would be to work to get a bit more extremes on the tracks. The vocals seem to be on the muffled side, while the other tracks are somewhat present yet they don't really cut through or involve themselves in the tapestry of the song. The overall vibe is very mono, despite there being tracks clearly out to the sides. A fair bit more fundamental mixing work (after reamping!) would really help this one pop.

Thanks for the submission!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 01:01:44 AM
hey, here's my entry:

http://soundcloud.com/fedestonelizards/memnoir-the-one-mixoff-contest

It's actually one of my first mixes so I'm really looking forward to some feedbacks :) thank you

Nice glitching! This mix seems to have a short-room vibe about itself, which is fairly novel. I like how you've kept the guitars up, acknowledging that it is at heart a rock song and those are fundamental to what the listener would be expecting.

Was the snare kept entirely raw? I'm feeling like a lot of its character could be coming from the overhead tracks, as the snare itself is very stereo, with not much solidity in the center of the image. It also doesn't seem to possess a lot of body. Perhaps take a look at what might be done there in order to get it to pop, and contain a bit more girth within the track.

Likewise with the bass drum, I'm unsure what part of the chain could be causing it, but there is some uncomfortable tearing going on during the hit. Are you perhaps limiting it heavily?

My feeling would be to balance the kick-snare relationship in a way where it works with itself, then start to look at other elements from there. It couldn't hurt to open up the top-end across the entire song, perhaps make a few notches for clarity across the midrange and allow the arrangement to breathe just a touch more.

Cheers for that!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 01:25:57 AM
http://soundcloud.com/efpbeats/the-one-st-mixdown-efp

Here is my try.

Thanks a lot for the nice track really!

Nice somber vibe on the intro, once again quite a unique take on the song. Love the solidity and girth of the bass when it comes in on the slapping. What happened to the rhythm guitars on the chorus though? We're losing so much energy here, through only using the backing vocals to hold the section. Getting the rhythms back in will get a ton of energy into the song.

My only other suggestion would be to spend a little more time carving away at the vocals - embed them into the body of the song. Creating a tapestry rather than having tracks sitting alongside, or on top of each other would be ideal. Once everything feels 'nested', the song will open up as a whole. Wouldn't hurt to get some more distortion in there, as at its heart it's definitely a rock song!

I am quite digging the vibe that the effected clean lead guitar is adding to the song though. It's a very interesting approach!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 01:34:43 AM
Here's mine I guess. I'm sad to say I haven't had the chance to put all the time in this that it deserves. It's been busy and I'm leaving town for some FoH work this weekend, so this will have to do. No time for editing/tuning, dotting i's and crossing t's.

I did my best to take it in a different direction to keep it fresh, but I haven't heard any of the other mixes yet, so I may end up sounding exactly like the others :)

I stripped it down some and made some creative decisions that I would and should never get away with if this were a real client, but it's all in good fun I guess. Guitars, synths and electronic drums have taken more of a backseat in favor of the holy drum/bass/leadvox-trinity compared to Ermin's original mix. I tried to make it as dry as I could get away with without sounding small or thin. A poppy kind of punchy-in-yer-face watchamacallit sound... Or something...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11332908/MenmoirTheOne_Lastrite.mp3

Thanks a lot Ermin and Memnoir! Great song and the original mix is freakin' awesome!

Nice balancing work! This mix has a good 'all-rounder' feel to it, which to me is a fundamental aspect of translating music. You've haven't focused too much in some areas, and left others neglected. Most elements are quite audible, and the section transitions all make sense. I like your take on the effects too!

My main suggestion would be to open the tracks up into the extremes. Don't be afraid to have the kick and bass punching lower, and the highs be airier. It's like the use of stark contrast on photography - it can often enhance the depth of the source content and reveal new textures which weren't immediately perceptible. Some more front-to-back work using delays and reverbs to open up the song would not go amiss either!

Cheers.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: WombatStudio.Org on May 22, 2012, 02:55:42 AM
My submission: http://wombatstudio.org/MO/20120520-MO-TheOne-PT10-WL7M-S006.mp3
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:00:30 AM
Aiight, here's mine:

http://soundcloud.com/vvv-4/memnoirs-the-one-vvv-mix

This were fun!

Hey there,

Interesting subdued take on this one.

For my own personal take on the music, this would not be an approach I would use, as it removes a lot of the inherent energy and aggression from the music. The kick is way back there, the guitars are very clean, and most of the mix elements are coming through somewhat muffled sounding. My recommendation would be to get in there, really beef the kick and bass up, get some more distortion on the guitars and start boosting some global high-end on the mix. Don't be afraid to get more aggressive with compression either, as tracks like this commonly need it to establish a sense of motion.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:12:36 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/76696771/The%20One.mp3

Nice Slate-esque drums there! :). It might be obvious to the observer, as it's closer along the lines of the original mix, but I like the more aggressive approach you've used on this mix. I think it complements the nature of the song well, and the judicious use of compression helps punctuate the groove and movement of the music.

If I might suggest, the mix appears to shrink a touch on the choruses. Consider decongesting the guitars across the upper midrange to see whether you can get some back-to-front space and allow the vocals and synthesis to sit a bit more effortlessly. It can be an endless battle, but getting some more clean, punchy bass out of the bass guitar would be a good move. Since the kick sample is quite 'clean' in nature, you can afford to 'tetris' the bass around it more aggressively. It feels like the bass is focused more around the mid-bass part of the spectrum, whereas it could afford to go lower and get more expansive/dense.

Thanks for that!

Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:18:09 AM
Hi Guys :)
Maybe i'm late, but this is my try at it :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5632425/Ermin%20-%20The%20One.mp3

Thanks to Ermin :)

PS: i've listened many mixes, and they are all good, but i think 140dbSPL has done the best one for now, great job dude :)

Hey Joe,

Thanks for taking a stab at this. I like how wide your choruses get on this. They feel like they really open up.

I'm a little apprehensive about the lead vocal sounding so 'on-top' of, and disconnected from every other mix element. I would endeavor to try and nestle it amongst the instruments more naturally, and create a greater sense of overall cohesion. From a mix balancing point of view, you may want to remove some bass content from the lower-mids and let it sing more clearly in the lows. Overall a bit more separation would definitely help things come along here and breathe more easily.

These tracks want to take up a lot of space, and you really need to get aggressive with your carving work in order to make them sing well with each other.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:22:40 AM
Hi Ermin and everyone else! Here's my go at the song. Not 100% happy with the solidness and glue of the vocals but overall I'm happy with the mix! Was really fun to mix it and a very good recording.
http://soundcloud.com/mattiasprada/mixoff-the-one

Hey there,

Glad to hear that you had fun mixing it. That's what these comps are all about.

What immediately strikes me about this mix is that you may be wanting to get more aggressive overall with your processing. The tracks sound quite raw to me, and as such don't take on much of a 'finished product', 'radio' type flavor. It's perfectly okay to make some drastic moves in order to get the mix where it needs to go.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:29:55 AM
Hi, here is my attempt: http://soundcloud.com/adr90/the-one-by-adr  I enjoyed mixing this track, it´s a cool song! Thanks to ermz for making this contest possible and for sharing his knowledge with us.

Glad you enjoyed it! The thanks should go to JT from Memnoir and John for making the tracks available to you all though. I'm only here playing the resident picky prick!

I dig that you've used some FX and automation to help the song move. If I might suggest, the instruments sound quite congested as soon as the song gets dense in the choruses. My suggestion would be to open up all the individual elements with more EQ, and all them all to breathe within their own spaces a little more. For some reason the tracks feel like they've all been pushed into a very narrow portion of the spectrum, and are quite often fighting each other for control. We want to go the opposite way and allow everything to breathe - this will help the listener identify the individual melodies and connect to the music more profoundly.

One thing that sticks out is that the 'brightening' EQ on the hats and cymbals appears to be adding some harshness to the track. Consider adding higher frequencies, rather than ones which are closer to the upper midrange to the cymbals. Cymbals commonly want to eat into upper midrange space of their own will, so we don't want to be adding anything to that.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:36:26 AM
Hi Ermz !
Nice to read you on another forum than Ultimate Metal  ;)

Here is my mix
http://soundcloud.com/glow-x/mnemoir-the-one-glow-x/s-IMeXe (http://soundcloud.com/glow-x/mnemoir-the-one-glow-x/s-IMeXe)

Any feed back is welcome  8)


Hey! Yes, it's good to be on another forum every now and then.

I like how the lead vocal is nestled among the instruments on your mix. I would say a touch too much immediately obvious reverb, adding a bit too much of an 80s overtone to the music however. Feel free to add a bit more lower punch to the mix. Your balances generally seem quite in check, and so long as you back off the reverb a bit it should all come together well. Don't be afraid to get some more compression in there - particularly parallel compression on the drums. The song really craves that sense of motion that compressors can help create. It's a great platform to practice compression techniques on.

I'm unsure whether it's intentional, but you seem to have a small gap at the intro, right before the instruments all kick in. Could be a good idea to bridge that through to the song and let it flow a little more naturally!

Thanks for that submission.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:50:19 AM
Here's my effort:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/543762/The%20One%20mixA.wav

Thanks to all who made this possible!

Cheers for that!

I noticed that there is a big dynamic shift downward as soon as the first part of the intro is over. Might be a good idea to find a way to maintain the energy up until the slap bass comes in on the verse. There is a bit of a neutered sound to the song overall. You might want to be adding a lot more low-end, cleaning up the midrange frequencies, and getting more aggressive with compression on the whole. The drums are very largely getting lost, and along with them the rhythmic punch of the song. A spectral shift from the upper mids down toward the lows and lower mids as a whole would help the mix come alive and start to sound immediately deeper. It could be the monitoring system impacting the ability to perceive this, so I'd suggest referencing on a few different systems if the original monitors aren't entirely accurate.

I dig that you've kept the vocals very audible throughout though. It's a good approach for a song like this!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: SynergyRoom on May 22, 2012, 06:52:42 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/76696771/The%20One.mp3

Nice Slate-esque drums there! :). It might be obvious to the observer, as it's closer along the lines of the original mix, but I like the more aggressive approach you've used on this mix. I think it complements the nature of the song well, and the judicious use of compression helps punctuate the groove and movement of the music.

If I might suggest, the mix appears to shrink a touch on the choruses. Consider decongesting the guitars across the upper midrange to see whether you can get some back-to-front space and allow the vocals and synthesis to sit a bit more effortlessly. It can be an endless battle, but getting some more clean, punchy bass out of the bass guitar would be a good move. Since the kick sample is quite 'clean' in nature, you can afford to 'tetris' the bass around it more aggressively. It feels like the bass is focused more around the mid-bass part of the spectrum, whereas it could afford to go lower and get more expansive/dense.

Thanks for that!


Where can I go and listen to the original mix?
I only see the link to download the files!
Thank you.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 06:57:52 AM
Hi all, first post here.

Been lurking for a while (downloading tracks to mix ;D). I had a really fun/educational time mixing this song. Getting the ambient stuff to bounce around etc

Here's my mix, Ermz:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5087715/The%20One%20-%20Memnoir%20(mixoff%20contest).mp3

Thanks!

Yes, getting the ambient stuff working is half the fun.

I like how the track opens up after the guitar into on this. Good idea to make the main melody very prominent and 'available' to the listener. You're making most of the main elements of the song quite apparent to the listener, which is always good form. It feels like it makes sense from section to section. The right melodies are emphasized, the right elements are in the forefront.

As with some of the other mixes, I would suggest deepening your low-end content. Don't be afraid to make it punch harder and exert itself into the subs. Use aggressively bus compression to keep it all together if you have to. Some 'pumping' and movement is not a bad thing in this case.

Cheers for that submission!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 07:04:20 AM
Well here's my go at it, and just in time haha. Not a lot of noteworthy things I did with the mix other than I reamped the guitar through a Mesa 4Fourty, mixed the original snare with a sample, instead of trashing it all together, kept all of the original Tom tracks, and even though I did master it relatively hard like I would have for a client, I still strove to get a dynamic contrast between the verse/chorus.

Looking forward to a review from Ermz! (if I'm not too late for that portion of the contest)

Slater

http://soundcloud.com/slater05/the-one-mixoff

Cool industrial snare! It's nice to hear something a little more trashy and off-the-wall. There are industrial influences within the music, so it makes contextual sense.

Nice volume swell leading into the chorus!

Consider perhaps clearing out the high mids a touch on the guitars in order to allow the vocals and leads to breathe a little easier. Consider clearing some midbass/low mid content away from the kick in order to let it punch deeper and cleaner. It's all about opening up some space within the mix.

Cheers for that!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 07:15:12 AM
Thanks Ermz for this opportunity! This was A great challenge and nice one to mix. Just noticed this competition last saturday so I had only two days to complete, but I still wanted to take part.

Here is my mix:

Mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12578903/TheOneMp3_Sedit1.mp3

Wav
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12578903/TheOneWav_Sedit1.wav

Thanks!

You're welcome, but once again the thanks should go to JT and John for making it possible!

Good work in keeping the mix together. It feels quite glued and cohesive. Nothing has a 'sore thumb' effect, and the music is making sense through the eyes of this mix.

One thing I might suggest is just clearing up the midrange. Feel free to slot the tracks around a bit more into their own specific spaces. Sometimes you have to get really aggressive to make dense midrange content work. Guitars in particular love to let nothing through, so you may have to get brutal with your cuts in order to allow the synthesis and leads to come forward to the listener. All this will ultimately lead to greater perceived depth within the mix.

Thanks a lot for that submission!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 22, 2012, 07:20:10 AM
Okay guys, thank you very much for all these submissions! It was nice to generate so much interest and get so many people involved. You guys have opened my eyes up to some very different takes on this song, which I'd not considered before and I'm grateful for that.

If I could please get you all to post your FINAL submissions, in a DOWNLOADABLE format (very important - no streaming!) then I will get around to listening to them all sometime tomorrow and give us a verdict here.

Once again, these 'competitions' are much more about the journey and the announcement of a 'winner' is rarely more than circumstantial factors resulting in the outcome. So long as we've all picked something up and learned from the experience, everybody has won.

Since you'll all be posting downloadable versions of your mixes, it's only fair that I provide a downloadable version of the original mix. You can get that here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285689/Music/Memnoir%20-%20The%20One.mp3

Thanks again for your input. It was a pleasure to be a part of your community for this little while.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: melb_shredder on May 22, 2012, 07:27:01 AM
Sweet!
Well here's mine - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/306055/Memnoir%20-%20The%20One%20VERSION%201.mp3
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: midas on May 22, 2012, 07:29:33 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/51790150/one.mp3   ;D
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: alex3293 on May 22, 2012, 08:03:55 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12853836/The%20One_Master.mp3   :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: 140dBspl on May 22, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
Alright then... final submission:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/67245094/mixes/the_one_mix2.mp3

Thank you very much Ermz! I think most guys - like me - will buy the book anyway if they don't win  ;D
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: MortenRa on May 22, 2012, 10:38:25 AM
Final mix
The One MortenDK mix v2 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1255096/The%20One%20MortenDK%20Mix.07.mp3)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: FourFour on May 22, 2012, 03:52:06 PM
Thanks for the advice, Ermz.

Final mix:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5087715/FourFour%20The%20One%20-%20Memnoir%20(mixoff%20contest).mp3

Edit: Added my username into the filename
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Vincent on May 22, 2012, 04:04:55 PM

Nice song...some decent mixes.

I didnt have time to finish my mix...also once I put 59 tracks into reaper the computer started spitting and spattering.

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Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: sedit1 on May 22, 2012, 04:38:19 PM
Here is my final!

Mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12578903/TheOneMp3_Sedit1_v2.mp3

Wav
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12578903/TheOneWav_Sedit1_v2.wav
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: CallMeReeko on May 22, 2012, 05:08:49 PM
thanks for the advice, I tried fattening up the snare and making a more solid kick-snare combination.
Here's my final version:

wav
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12141262/CallMeReeko%20mixoff%20contest%20-%20Memnoir%20-%20the%20one%20MASTER%20FINAL.wav

mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12141262/CallMeReeko%20mixoff%20contest%20-%20Memnoir%20-%20the%20one%20MASTER%20FINAL%20mp3.mp3

it was fun taking part in this contest. Cheers :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: ridgybeatle on May 22, 2012, 05:14:54 PM
I wasn't sure if we could revise or not. Here it is - late or not. I had fun. Great mixes guys!

http://soundcloud.com/ridgybeatle/the-one-revised/s-QLEbg
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: ubersyntax on May 22, 2012, 07:44:37 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing the winning mix!  ;D
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: gLOW-x on May 23, 2012, 12:02:36 AM
Mine is now download ready  ;)

http://soundcloud.com/glow-x/mnemoir-the-one-glow-x/download (http://soundcloud.com/glow-x/mnemoir-the-one-glow-x/download)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Black Sheep on May 23, 2012, 12:04:02 AM
Here's my effort:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/543762/The%20One%20mixA.wav

Thanks to all who made this possible!

Cheers for that!

I noticed that there is a big dynamic shift downward as soon as the first part of the intro is over. Might be a good idea to find a way to maintain the energy up until the slap bass comes in on the verse. There is a bit of a neutered sound to the song overall. You might want to be adding a lot more low-end, cleaning up the midrange frequencies, and getting more aggressive with compression on the whole. The drums are very largely getting lost, and along with them the rhythmic punch of the song. A spectral shift from the upper mids down toward the lows and lower mids as a whole would help the mix come alive and start to sound immediately deeper. It could be the monitoring system impacting the ability to perceive this, so I'd suggest referencing on a few different systems if the original monitors aren't entirely accurate.

I dig that you've kept the vocals very audible throughout though. It's a good approach for a song like this!

Hi Ermz, thanks for the feedback!  Recently switched monitors here so still getting used to the low end.  Anyway here's an updated mix that hopefully addresses the low-end issues and you can actually hear the kick this time!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/543762/The%20One%20mixB.wav
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Albano on May 23, 2012, 01:16:10 AM
Final mix:

http://soundcloud.com/adr90/the-one-by-adr-final-mix
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Ermz on May 23, 2012, 03:48:59 AM
After mixing up all the entries in a folder and listening to them under the most objective circumstances I could, I've come up with my personal 'Top 3'. Here are the finalists:

140dBSPL
melb_shredder
sedit1

After boiling it down and listening to these 3 ceaselessly against each other - trying to judge each on its own merits as much as possible - we've got a winner.

That person is...

sedit1

Congratulations sedit1, if you'd like to private message me with your e-mail account, I'll organize a complimentary copy of the Systematic Mixing Guide for you.

Thank you all for taking part.

If you're wondering about the reasons behind this mix being chosen as the winner, then I'll elaborate a bit on the decision. Looking back on the feedback given to this mix, you can see I remarked on how balanced the song sounded, and how it seemed to make sense through the eyes of this mix. Above all, that is the most important facet to me as a mix engineer. I need a mix to be a near-perfect delivery mechanism for the music, and sedit1 did an admirable job of delivering the intention of the music with his. The fact that it is a good all-rounder mix, with no particular weak spots or certain elements dominating others, makes it a great example of the sort of mix which would serve a client's ambitions.

If you're thinking that I may have been caught in the 'louder is better' trap - as this mix is one of the loudest - I assure you that I auditioned them all using my volume knob to get them to a similar, and equally appropriate level.

If I might go further and play a partial self-promotion card, then I would say that many of these mixes had certain audible markers which tell me that a many of the contestants could benefit from a read through the Systematic Mixing Guide. I wrote it specifically to deal with the inherent issues which reside in many of the submissions, and I'm confident that many of you would find it quite helpful. I'll leave it there, at risk of sounding too much like a marketing blurb!

Once again, thank you all for taking part, and I hope we all learned a few things from it!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on May 23, 2012, 05:37:33 AM
Thanks Ermin, and thanks to everyone who participated!

Congrats to sedit1, nice work!

(There are some great tips in Ermin's book, particularly with regard to getting a full yet controlled low end. I've used some of his tips in my recent mixes, with great success. Check it out, and feel free to continue discussing the mixes here, as well!)

Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: sedit1 on May 23, 2012, 06:03:59 AM
Huge thanks for everybody!

Lots of great mixes here, hopefully everyone learned something new, I know I did.

Cant wait to read the mixing guide and based the guides Ermz has wrote earlier I would strongly recomend others would read it also, no matter what your level is.

Best,
Matias
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: melb_shredder on May 23, 2012, 06:28:08 AM
Awesome stuff! Quite proud of being in the Top 3. Congratulations Sedit1. Your mix sounded great dude ^_^

Enjoy the book, it's fantastic!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: 140dBspl on May 23, 2012, 10:17:54 AM
Same thing here. Sedit1, Congrats!  :D

And thanks again to Ermin!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: midas on May 23, 2012, 01:06:01 PM
Congratulations sedit1, 140dBSPL and
melb_shredder :) all very good sounding mixes!

is there only a "e-Book" version of the book ?
if not, where can it be found
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: FourFour on May 23, 2012, 03:57:20 PM
Congratulations, sedit1. Thanks mixoff and Ermz for this contest.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: vvv on May 23, 2012, 04:42:01 PM
Please accept my non-"subdued" thanx, also!   8)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: alex3293 on May 23, 2012, 07:29:49 PM
Congratulations, Sedit1. Good work.  :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: Lastrite on May 23, 2012, 09:03:19 PM
Big grats to the winners and thanks to all involved.

Also: I had already read Ermin's book before this contest started and I can highly recommend it. The critique we got is already worth more then what he's asking for it, so go buy it you ingrates!   ;)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: csiaudio on May 24, 2012, 03:19:18 PM
My life...a day late and dollar short!  Well just saw this posted on Friday and tossed together a mix.  I don't expect any input yet thought I would post it just for fun  ;D

http://www.creativesoundimages.com/mp3/TheOne.mp3 (http://www.creativesoundimages.com/mp3/TheOne.mp3)


Rock on and thanks for allowing us to mess with the tracks Ermin - it was fun.


Cary
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: stickfigure on May 24, 2012, 08:09:03 PM
Didn't have time do basically redo my mix (not that it would have mattered ;) ) but I would like to thank Ermin for his reviews (mine and all the others) and the band for letting us use the tracks!

And congratulations to sedit1! :)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: hammet_37 on January 21, 2013, 09:34:07 AM
Final mix: Memnoir (the one) ;D ;)


https://soundcloud.com/hammet_37/memnoir-mastering
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: ErdemGavazi on March 29, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
https://soundcloud.com/erdem-gavazi/memnoir-the-one


I did it for pleasure hope you like it  ;)
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: shanegrush on January 24, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
Hey everyone,

Just curious if anyone has this multitrack. I tried the link but it's down. Thanks for any help in advance.
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: tmc2300 on January 28, 2014, 04:13:00 AM
Hey everyone,

Just curious if anyone has this multitrack. I tried the link but it's down. Thanks for any help in advance.

I'd love to get my hands on this too!
Title: Re: Mixoff Contest with Ermin Hamidovic - Win Ermin's New eBook!
Post by: MortenRa on January 30, 2014, 03:25:12 PM
http://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm (http://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm)

Under Rock/Punk/Metal
called Memnoir: The One