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Forum Suggestions & Improvements => Mixoff.org Promotion Ideas => Topic started by: JohnSuitcase on February 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM

Title: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on February 23, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
I'm starting this thread to get some ideas for promoting the forum!

So far, I've promoted by posting some links to other forums (which is how most of you got here, I imagine!)

I'm planning to do a contest, not sure of the nature of it yet, but it's coming.

I don't want to put money into advertising at this stage, but if the opportunity was right, I might consider it.

Anyone have suggestions?

If you are checking out the site, but on the fence about registering and participating, please take a minute and register, and let me know what you're thinking. I feel like as we get a few more mixoffs going, it should start to snowball and get more participation, but any suggestions are welcome!
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: noeqplease on February 27, 2011, 08:12:17 AM
Hi,

I might consider linking to independent artists websites, blogs, etc, once this really takes off.

It might bring artists and us engineers closer together. If an artist looks here for a mix engineer and finds one...
then maybe have the engineer pay a small commission to help pay for the running of the site?
I would go for something like that, if it brings more business to me.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: Zabrilla on February 28, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
Assuming that your already thinking of socal network sites, what about member mixes played on internet radio (assuming all relavent permissions are granted, if applicable)?

There seems to be a great mix of Audio Engineers/Producers here, there seems to be two main focuses of the site. 1) Employment opertunities for engineers and 2) Learning and experience opertunities and valid critique for the less experienced engineers.

I would say that the majority of members fall into catogory 2 (myself included) so what scope is there to consider forging links with a large studio, the idea being the members who want to learn and gain experience get the opertunity to actually go in and use the recording gear, observe professionals (see catogory 1) in operation and generally absorb!

The point would be that with such links and opertunities, the promotion would probabilly handle itself!

the global reach of the internet is a bit of a stumbleing block for some but hey, nothing worth doing is ever easy!
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: 6x2 on March 01, 2011, 11:01:58 AM
Hi,

I like the idea of this forum. It's great.

One promotional idea would be to buy a banner in places like The Womb (http://thewombforums.com/), Gearslutz (http://www.gearslutz.com/board/) and REP (http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/). At The Womb, they sell (or used to) sell really cheap small stamp-type banners.

Especially The Womb has had similar stuff going on for years, The CAPE and MixIt!, a lot of people would be interested in this.

Promoting in the aforementioned places will probably attract a lot of professional mixers (such as myself), which is likely to raise the overall quality of the mixes (?), but may lead to all sorts of pissing contests and gear-wanky stuff.

Also, from my point of view an "Mixer for hire"-kind of section would be quite nice for us who work in the field proffessionally. It would be a good way to make a distinction between the projects that are purely for fun and those that are commercial projects in need of a mixer, that would serve both parties nicely. Obviously, the ideal would be for the pros to mix a couple of tracks from the forums and use them as "CV"-type of tracks here instead of  just listing commercial projects they've been involved with. But I would like to see that as a separate section, it would make more sense to me.

BTW, apart from mixing I also teach mixing and engineering and I was wondering if projects here could be used as educational material? It would be wonderful to give a wider variety of styles for the students to mix than what I can gather from my own vast, but indie/rock/jazz-filled archives. If they're licensed Creative Commons, wouldn't that make them available for educational use? Are there licensing guidelines or rules visible here at the forums? I didn't spot them yet anyway... That would be an important thing to emphasize, as that would clear any copyright issues.

But as said, I really like the idea of this place!

6x2
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: Vincent on March 01, 2011, 10:37:52 PM
You tube would be a good option to advertise this site...perhaps post a few of the better mixes and have the name of the site in the video/slideshow and also have a link.

I did a video a while back as an example of what could be done in regards to free advertising.

Ignore the song quality...its an old recording of mine that I did when I first started home recording in 2007...I played guitar in the song... 8)

I only posted the websites in the middle and at the end of video however you could have the website at the beginning and perhaps a few other spots in the video as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dRFZsTXfHY
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: timboz on March 02, 2011, 02:21:52 AM
Keep in mind the more your website address is out there the more spam accounts you will get.
They all cant be stoped, but most of them can be prevented.
Just looking at the members list there are over 30 spam accounts.


Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on March 03, 2011, 07:49:27 PM


BTW, apart from mixing I also teach mixing and engineering and I was wondering if projects here could be used as educational material? It would be wonderful to give a wider variety of styles for the students to mix than what I can gather from my own vast, but indie/rock/jazz-filled archives. If they're licensed Creative Commons, wouldn't that make them available for educational use? Are there licensing guidelines or rules visible here at the forums? I didn't spot them yet anyway... That would be an important thing to emphasize, as that would clear any copyright issues.

But as said, I really like the idea of this place!

6x2

I haven't made any explicit licensing info available, other than the terms when you register. I don't think there's any problem with educational use, but you might contact the OP if there's a particular track you want to use. And of course, any of your students are welcome to come and participate in the forum, as well!

I'll add a basic licensing agreement to the bottom of the pages. Something stating that tracks are for educational use only, unless otherwise stated.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: vvv on March 13, 2011, 06:47:26 AM
FWIW, I've linked stuff at the two forums I'm a regular at, tapeop.com and vsplanet.conforums.com, and will continue to do so.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on March 13, 2011, 03:52:22 PM
FWIW, I've linked stuff at the two forums I'm a regular at, tapeop.com and vsplanet.conforums.com, and will continue to do so.

I think that tasteful links are a great way to bring new folks over. I've done similar things, with the ones I started. Just don't make it look like spam, of course!

Thanks for helping grow the site!
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: joethfc on March 22, 2011, 07:19:05 PM
A Facebook group is a good idea these days.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: AstralPStudios on March 23, 2011, 01:10:00 AM
If you REALLY want to get this forum up there...go here:

www.autobacklinkservice.com

Chose the phrases mix off, practice mixing and online mixing. I can find a couple others for you.

Worth every penny my good man. I didn't appear in search results at all for music mixing,
a couple weeks later I was on page 2 of google for it and now I'm on page 1. :)

The great thing is you get 100 backlinks for each of those keywords @35.00 a piece, that's some
of the best SEO service (and cheapest and non-black hat) that you can get. I have a few more keywords
I plan to do the same for in the future, probably next month.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: Nomercy on April 13, 2011, 04:55:51 PM
Hi everyone

Backlinks ar not very useful in terms of google

A good way to promote it would be SEO (Search engine optimization) ... you will need to optimize the forum mainly for google, in order to get listed in its "Phrase Search Results".

I believe many people out there are looking for this kind of resources ..so, if you manage to "guess" what this people would type in google, and you optimize the website in relation to that, than you'll get on the first pages of google and it'll be easier for people to find the website!

also, there's not much competition for the phrases/words you need to optimize the site, so, it won't be too hard to get at the 1st page of google.

Sorry about my english..i hope it's clear! ;)
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 18, 2011, 12:11:54 AM
First off, find out what is working already before we try something new. When people register give them an option to ask them how they discovered the board and a little about themselves. I was just referred here by someone on Gearslutz, which is a good starting point for now, and I will put a link to the board in my signature.

By far the biggest market for this board are students at audio or music schools, studio interns and assistant engineers. Anyone who goes to school with students who are interested in audio, should be encouraged to mention the board to friends. If anyone here is a teacher or mentor to someone interested in audio, they should be encouraged to discuss it as a place where young engineers can get feedback on their projects and learn to become better mixers in general.The Internet is cool, but real life references trump everything. John you live in Phoenix, AZ - consider going to that Conservatory of Recording Sciences school in nearby Tempe (http://www.audiorecordingschool.com/index.html) and leaving a stack of posters around advertising the board.

This place will grow, even if it's slowly. I see this when I log in:

Most Online Today: 37. Most Online Ever: 46 (October 12, 2011, 08:39:03 AM)

The fact that the peak of activity was 5 days ago means this place isn't on the decline and the members are still active. That's good; as long as those members continue to come here and post up, eventually people will find the place; even with no promotion they will somehow stumble upon it. I say we include a section where folks can just discuss music in general, and watch as those numbers grow as people find a topic discussing their favorite band or engineers production techniques.You can't Google a piece of gear without a topic on Gearslutz popping up discussing it; once the database fills with chatter, the snowball will get rolling and it will basically promote itself.

EDIT:

I've been here poking around for 5 minutes and I already like the idea of the board, I will continue to be active and refer friends who will hopefully come to the same conclusion I have and refer friends of their own.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: JohnSuitcase on October 18, 2011, 02:44:44 AM
That's a good idea, putting some flyers at the conservatory! I've emailed a couple people I know over there, but you're really relying on them to spread the word, which I don't know that they will. I imagine teachers at any community college recording program would be interested in a resource like this, too.

I've added a couple of subforums dedicated to general discussions of mixing and control room setup, but they aren't terribly active. There's some really good advice in there, but it's not a place where people do a lot of chatting. I suppose I could create a more general discussion area, but I feel like Gearslutz, Tapeop, etc have that covered. My hope is to keep this site fairly narrow but deep, with lots of good advice, backed up by real examples. Of course, that makes the barrier to posting kinda high! People need to download tracks, mix them, then post them to have anything to share!

I'm pretty happy with the growth of the site, all things considered. Anything to encourage good growth with quality members, and to maintain the positive cooperative vibe I'm happy with!
Title: Re: Looking for ideas to promote the forum, please make suggestions!
Post by: Cereal Killer on October 18, 2011, 11:58:09 AM
That's a good idea, putting some flyers at the conservatory! I've emailed a couple people I know over there, but you're really relying on them to spread the word, which I don't know that they will. I imagine teachers at any community college recording program would be interested in a resource like this, too.

I've added a couple of subforums dedicated to general discussions of mixing and control room setup, but they aren't terribly active. There's some really good advice in there, but it's not a place where people do a lot of chatting. I suppose I could create a more general discussion area, but I feel like Gearslutz, Tapeop, etc have that covered. My hope is to keep this site fairly narrow but deep, with lots of good advice, backed up by real examples. Of course, that makes the barrier to posting kinda high! People need to download tracks, mix them, then post them to have anything to share!

I'm pretty happy with the growth of the site, all things considered. Anything to encourage good growth with quality members, and to maintain the positive cooperative vibe I'm happy with!

Cool bro! I'm long out of school, but know a few assistant engineers and like the board so I will definitely try to do what I can. Yeah I think pamphlets are a good idea, and if you just walked in and casually spoke to one of the deans at the school, I'm sure they wouldn't be against it, especially because it will give their school more exposure to have many of their students here discussing what they are learning, with no sort of commitment on their behalf other than hosting a stack of papers on the front desk. It's also cheap! You can organize some text on a background in iPaint in 10 minutes with no experience, and press a bunch of them for about what you are making off the Google ads alone.

You're right in that too much general chatter will kill the whole idea of a mixing forum, and that's why I was thinking more of a section where people can discuss techniques of current situations, such as how everyone feels about Band Name Here's new polished sound, a video of how Engineer X mixed such and such an album. I think the show Pensado's Place is a good example of how interested people are in the techniques of who we would call "professionals." I found myself on youtube one afternoon looking up how Dave Bendeth recorded that absolutely perfect, sexy snare on Paramore's RIOT! album. I would kill people for that thing as a sample.